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Wikileaks ---ShauMei Personal thoughts

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Anonymous

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No copy and paste here. How original!

Personally I think Wikileaks is a setup. Assange has said over and over he does not believe 9/11 was an inside job yet he releases war data that most would think would hurt the usa but it does not.

Assange is wanted now for the rape of two women in Sweden. Police cannot track him down yet he is doing interviews on TED and other major media outlets.

When Wikileaks was founded, Assange was not listed as the founder. In its second year he was listed as an advisor. Now he is the man on the run.

This whole deal is to try to censor the internet for the real Julian Assange before he comes along. There have been way too many secrets about the govts around the world released already. Most know what happened on 9/11 now due only to the internet as the mass media runs from the subject. Same with chemtrails, Oklahoma city, jfk, rfk, mlk, etc...you name it. the internet gets real info out there that is dangerous to the people in power.

they cannot just put the cat back in the bag but they will try to show us why the cat should be back in the bag and have you accept internet censorship. same as 9/11 had most of you bend over and take the Patriot act right up the ass and like it.
 

Tam

Well-known member
shaumei said:
No copy and paste here. How original!

Personally I think Wikileaks is a setup. Assange has said over and over he does not believe 9/11 was an inside job yet he releases war data that most would think would hurt the usa but it does not.

Assange is wanted now for the rape of two women in Sweden. Police cannot track him down yet he is doing interviews on TED and other major media outlets.

When Wikileaks was founded, Assange was not listed as the founder. In its second year he was listed as an advisor. Now he is the man on the run.

This whole deal is to try to censor the internet for the real Julian Assange before he comes along. There have been way too many secrets about the govts around the world released already. Most know what happened on 9/11 now due only to the internet as the mass media runs from the subject. Same with chemtrails, Oklahoma city, jfk, rfk, mlk, etc...you name it. the internet gets real info out there that is dangerous to the people in power.

they cannot just put the cat back in the bag but they will try to show us why the cat should be back in the bag and have you accept internet censorship. same as 9/11 had most of you bend over and take the Patriot act right up the ass and like it.

Sham have you talked to your Doctor about your newest conspiracy theroy?
BTW Did they put new rubber on the walls of your room or did they leave the maintance room door unlocked? As it seems to me you have got to be sniffing something to come with all the conspiracies you believe in. :roll:
 

Lonecowboy

Well-known member
I have to agree with Shamuei here: never let a good crisis go to waste.

I think they (obama and handlers) will use this as a reason to try and control the internet. why do NOTHING from July till now? why wait for this to only get worse?
 

Tam

Well-known member
Lonecowboy said:
I have to agree with Shamuei here: never let a good crisis go to waste.

I think they (obama and handlers) will use this as a reason to try and control the internet. why do NOTHING from July till now? why wait for this to only get worse?

Call it what ever you want but I say it is an Incompetent Administration with and INCOMPETENT LEADER that is in way over his head. They have yet to act on countless issues, the Terrorists trials, Jobs and Bush Tax cuts. It took Obama months to give the military even part of what they needed to be successful in the war on terrorism. And when he did give in to the military, he also told the Terrorists if they just hide out until July 2011 the US will be pulling out and they can go back to actions as usual. :x So do you really have to ask why he is waiting until it gets worse. THE MAN AND HIS ADMINISTRATION IS INCOMPETENT. :mad:
 

Steve

Well-known member
shouldn't we know?

The government cables, sent by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and senior State Department officials, catalogue a long list of methods that U.S. officials suspect terrorist financiers are using, from a brazen armed bank robbery in Yemen last year to kidnappings for ransom, drug proceeds in Afghanistan and annual religious pilgrimages to Mecca, where millions of riyals or other forms of currency change hands. A classified memo sent by Ms. Clinton last December made it clear that residents of Saudi Arabia and its neighbors, all allies of the U.S., are the chief financial supporters of many extremist activities. “It has been an ongoing challenge to persuade Saudi officials to treat terrorist financing emanating from Saudi Arabia as a strategic priority,” the cable said, concluding that “donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide.”

if a list of groups and corporations that funnel money to terrorists was publicized... we as Americans could at least try to shun those who we shouldn't be doing business with and pressure our government to distance itself from them as well..
 

Steve

Well-known member
more on the issue...

Cash Flow to Terrorists Evades U.S. Efforts

WASHINGTON — Nine years after the United States vowed to shut down the money pipeline that finances terrorism, senior Obama administration officials say they believe that many millions of dollars are flowing largely unimpeded to extremist groups worldwide, and they have grown frustrated by frequent resistance from allies in the Middle East, according to secret diplomatic dispatches.

The government cables, sent by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and senior State Department officials, catalog a list of methods that American officials suspect terrorist financiers are using,

While American officials have publicly been relatively upbeat about their progress in disrupting terrorist financing, the internal State Department cables, obtained by WikiLeaks and made available to several news organizations, offer a more pessimistic account, with blunt assessments of the threats to the United States from money flowing to militants affiliated with Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Hamas, Lashkar-e-Taiba and other groups.

While President George W. Bush frequently vowed to cut off financing for militants and pledged to make financiers as culpable as terrorists who carried out plots, President Obama has been far less vocal on the issue publicly as he has sought to adopt a more conciliatory tone with Arab nations. But his administration has used many of the same covert diplomatic, intelligence and law enforcement tools as his predecessor and set up a special task force in the summer of 2009 to deal with the growing problem.

While federal officials can point to some successes — prosecutions, seizures of money and tightened money-laundering regulations in foreign countries — the results have often been frustrating, the cables show. As the United States has pushed for more aggressive crackdowns on suspected supporters of terrorism, foreign leaders have pushed back. In private meetings, they have accused American officials of heavy-handedness and of presenting thin evidence of wrongdoing by Arab charities or individuals, according to numerous cables.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/world/middleeast/06wikileaks-financing.html
 

Steve

Well-known member
Lonecowboy said:
I have to agree with Shamuei here: never let a good crisis go to waste.

I think they (obama and handlers) will use this as a reason to try and control the internet. why do NOTHING from July till now? why wait for this to only get worse?

I am not against Wiki leaks.. or any other journalist..

I feel all should show a bit more responsibility.. and have been generally disgusted with their apparent bias and lack of ethics..

and I feel Wiki leaks falls into the category of irresponsible.. if not dangerous..

but will the lack of reaction and action result in over-reaction be worse... yes in my opinion..
 

Steve

Well-known member
Shampooie said:
Assange is wanted now for the rape of two women in Sweden

the rape allegation stems from a august 14 "date rape" and an August 20 investigation and warrant..

On 28 November 2010, WikiLeaks began publishing the United States diplomatic cables leak.

do time lines confuse you?

Assange is wanted by Swedish prosecutors on suspicion of rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion.

Swedish prosecutors dropped rape allegations Saturday against the elusive founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, Still, a separate allegation of molestation remains.

At the same time, the prosecutors seemed to leave open the possibility that Assange was under investigation for other crimes in Sweden,

when confronted with the allegations, he took to the internet and said they were unfounded? yet at the same time went into hiding...

and this is not the first time... seems he learned the tactic from his mother.
but broke up in 1982 and engaged in a custody struggle for Assange's half-brother. His mother then took both children into hiding for the next five years. Assange moved several dozen times during his childhood, attending many schools, sometimes being home schooled, and later attending several universities at various times in Australia

and one might look a bit closer at him..
after turning 16, Assange began hacking under the name "Mendax"
(derived from a phrase of Horace: "splendide mendax," or "nobly untruthful")

seems deceit is part of his nature?

such as saying the rape charges are based on his consensual sex with out a condom... when in reality,, that is not the truth.
On 20 August 2010, an investigation was opened against Assange in Sweden in connection with an allegation that he had raped a woman in Enköping on the weekend of 14 August after a seminar, and two days later had sexually harassed a second woman he had been staying with in Stockholm.[104][105]

According to accounts given to police by the two women, each woman had consensual sexual encounters with Mr. Assange that became nonconsensual when Mr. Assange wanted to continue sex after, in the case of one woman, a condom broke, and in the case of the second woman, a condom was no longer in use

didn't he learn that NO means NO no matter when she decides to stop.. it is the law in our country as well... often called "Date Rape"

it might be frustrating to control your urges.. but when a line is drawn... you will or suffer the consequences..
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
shaumei said:
No copy and paste here. How original!

Personally I think Wikileaks is a setup. Assange has said over and over he does not believe 9/11 was an inside job yet he releases war data that most would think would hurt the usa but it does not.

Assange is wanted now for the rape of two women in Sweden. Police cannot track him down yet he is doing interviews on TED and other major media outlets.

When Wikileaks was founded, Assange was not listed as the founder. In its second year he was listed as an advisor. Now he is the man on the run.

This whole deal is to try to censor the internet for the real Julian Assange before he comes along. There have been way too many secrets about the govts around the world released already. Most know what happened on 9/11 now due only to the internet as the mass media runs from the subject. Same with chemtrails, Oklahoma city, jfk, rfk, mlk, etc...you name it. the internet gets real info out there that is dangerous to the people in power.

they cannot just put the cat back in the bag but they will try to show us why the cat should be back in the bag and have you accept internet censorship. same as 9/11 had most of you bend over and take the Patriot act right up the ass and like it.

Sorry bud, but you're not the first on Ranchers to think this "leak" will be used as an excuse for further governmental control.


http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=495287&highlight=wikileaks#495287
 

beethoven

Well-known member
this situation is an opening to shut down journalists, and cut off freedom of speech.

the content of the leaks or whether assange and his team are good guys or not are the least of our worries.

views from uk and elsewhere

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/wikileaks-chief-what-will-he-do-next-2148813.html
 

Steve

Well-known member
beethoven said:
this situation is an opening to shut down journalists, and cut off freedom of speech.

the content of the leaks or whether assange and his team are good guys or not are the least of our worries.


Most journalists want to expose corruption and wrongful acts....

this leak issue does not do that,.. it just exposes US...

no wrongful act....

no misdeeds..

no corruption...

so what was the purpose?


to hide a larger misdeed ?

quite simply.. Assange was caught with his pants down... and in an effort to distract the world to his upcoming arrest for "date rapes" he dumped a bunch of "gossip"

sure some is enlightening.. but still just gossip..

if anything a person looking at the time lines, and the facts, can see he is trying to hide, a

and the threats of worse to come if arrested... well,.. now he is arrested.. so we will see if the world explodes...


when facing two date rape charges... he has done a brilliant job of distracting almost everyone...

how many will think he was arrested "just because of the leaks"

and how many will wonder why he was arrested for "consensual sex" because of the leaks?

and even more will think it is because he and his consensual partner just didn't use a condom?

when the fact is... She said NO,, and he didn't,..

and now he wants the world to believe it is because he took on the corrupt US government..
 
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Anonymous

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I have not read much of what he has released. But since there has not been anything really happen from it, I believe he is handled by someone. He also is not a truther or at least wants us to think he is not. Thus, I believe he is either a patsy or a known plant/fall guy much like McVeigh and Oswald.

If he releases how 9/11 was done with names, look out. You will see a lot of murders/suicides overnight. then you will know he was for real.
 
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