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Will McCain be the Repub Candidate?

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Anonymous

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Hunter is out of the race- Thompson will be in a couple of days...Its thought that Fred will endorse McCain....Will McCain be the Republican candidate? Historically for the last 28 years whoever wins the SC primary- gets the Republican nomination...And Rasmussen is now saying he has the best chances...

McCain is the only Republican in their current polls that can beat both Hillary and Obama--as he can draw the Independent voters...

He was my pick- until he came out with the Bush/Kennedy/McCain Amnesty Bill- and I started looking at his record.....
:( :mad:

Could you see a McCain/Thompson Republican ticket? Geritol and prune juice after nappy time would be on the daily schedule :wink: :lol: :lol:

Rasmussen Markets Update: McCain Chances of Winning Republican Nomination Tops 50%
Saturday, January 19, 2008

John McCain’s victory in South Carolina has made him the clear frontrunner in the race for the Republican Presidential nomination. At 8:49 p.m. Eastern time, expectations for McCain to win the nomination topped 50% according to Rasmussen Markets data. At that time, Mitt Romney was a distant second seen as having a 21% chance of winning the nomination. Close behind at 8:49 was Rudy Giuliani. The markets gave America’s Mayor a 17% chance of winning the nomination at that time.

At the same time, market data suggested that McCain had a 50% chance of winning in Florida. The latest polling in Florida shows a four-way tie in the Sunshine State. Nationally, McCain, Huckabee, and Romney have been the top three candidates in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll. However, those numbers are likely to shift following the South Carolina Primary.

Failure to win in South Carolina has moved Mike Huckabee into the long shot category. At the time McCain’s prospects moved past the 50% mark Huckabee’s chance of winning the nomination slipped to 7%. (current pricing: McCain 52.0%, Romney 20.0%, Giuliani 17.2%, Huckabee 6.5%).

Numbers in this article are from a prediction market, not a poll. Using a trading format where traders "buy and sell" candidates, issues, and news features, RasmussenMarkets.com harnesses competitive passions to becomes a reliable leading indicator of upcoming events. We invite you to participate in the Rasmussen Markets. It costs nothing to join and add your voice to the collective wisdom of the market. Prospects for South Carolina, Nevada, and Florida are featured on the Rasmussen Markets Summary Page

While McCain should savor his victory in the Palmetto State, the exit polls clearly spell out challenges for moving forward. As he did in New Hampshire, the Arizona Senator won the South Carolina Primary with the votes from Independents. He and Huckabee split the Republican vote evenly. Huckabee held the advantage over McCain among conservatives, 33% to 26% (see exit poll).

McCain leads Democratic frontrunners Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in general election polling.
 

Texan

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Boy, it would sure burn my ass to have to vote for John McCain. And I'd probably have to hold a gun on the old lady to make her go vote for him.

I heard some interesting talk about him last week, though. Instead of the McCain/Thompson ticket that OT is talking about, they were talking about the possibility of a McCain/Lieberman ticket. Something like that just might work to keep Hillary or Obama out.
 

katrina

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Man, I don't know......... I don't know if I could vote for him..... Well I take that back, I would rather than Hilery..... The worst of two or four evils. I don't like his stance on immigration. And he is rather old, but I guess so was Reagan. Could be quite interesting.
His wife would be a pretty first lady and I would hope she would be a class act. I don't know that much about her.. Yeah I could see a McCain/Lieberman ticket......
Thompson needs to stick to acting JMHO>>>>>>
 
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McCain won in NH and in SC by attracting Independent voters. He actually lost the registered Republicans to Huckabee in SC. I didn't see who else the Republicans could turn to, in the end, except McCain. Rudy is fading fast. Romney still seems to be holding on, though. Maybe he can be someone you all can get behind. :p
 
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ff said:
Romney still seems to be holding on, though. Maybe he can be someone you all can get behind. :p

Not me-- Rumney is the Big Business/Wallstreet and status quo neocon candidate....We've had 7 miserable years of that type "fiscal conservatism".... :roll:

This is how the Votemaster sees the current candidate Republican split in a simple assessment:

Wall St. Republicans love Romney, really care only about tax cuts
National security Republicans love McCain, mostly care about terrorism and Iraq
Evangelical Republicans love Huckabee, care about God, gays, guns, and immigration
Libertarian Republicans love Paul, care about Iraq, guns, privacy, and immigration


http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Maps/Jan19.html
 

kolanuraven

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I don't think McCain is a ' bad' man...by no means.

BUT....if you will remember on sooo many issues he's taken one stance.....then a totally different one....then back to 1st base again when cornered.


He just can't stay on track it seems. He prob does have excellent credentials and ' know how' but just because he was a POW does not instantly make him Presidential material as so many lilke to present.

If I were to vote Rep. I'd vote for Romney.
 
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kolanuraven said:
I don't think McCain is a ' bad' man...by no means.

BUT....if you will remember on sooo many issues he's taken one stance.....then a totally different one....then back to 1st base again when cornered.


He just can't stay on track it seems. He prob does have excellent credentials and ' know how' but just because he was a POW does not instantly make him Presidential material as so many lilke to present.

If I were to vote Rep. I'd vote for Romney.

Yep-- I've always like McCain--because he's kind of like me- he doesn't follow any drumbeat :wink: :lol: And back from the days he limped off the plane crippled, premature grey- and snapped his commander a stiff salute- I've seen him as a war hero....

But I got looking back thru his record- on all subjects and he's all over the place- from year to year....I'm afraid he'll end up being another GW- that spoke great things during the campaign- and did totally opposite after he walked in the White House.... :(

Besides immigration- two places he is totally contrary to old Conservative beliefs is that he believes in wide open global trade with no reservations even if the country we're trading with doesn't follow the rules (same as we have now) - and he thinks the US should be the Policeman to the world and go out and conquer and set up new governments in places that don't like us (same as we got now)...

Overthrow “rogue” governments to keep Americans safe. (Feb 2000)
 
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Anonymous

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McCain won't be the Republican nominee if the Republican establishment can stop it.

This Time, McCain Defused Conservative Attacks

CHARLESTON, S.C., Jan. 19 -- From Rush Limbaugh to Tom DeLay, voices that once held sway over the Republican rank and file unloaded on John McCain over the last week, trying to use a conservative electorate in South Carolina to derail the Arizona senator's quest for the Republican nomination.

But though McCain failed to persuade many of the old Republican power brokers, he wrapped up the Republican establishment where it counted most, South Carolina. His win Saturday underscored how different McCain's campaign has been this year compared with eight years ago, when a similar conservative assault effectively ended his campaign here and handed his party's presidential nomination to George W. Bush.

"I think the people of South Carolina are getting to know John McCain now, a little more than they know those folks anymore," longtime McCain aide Mark Salter said Saturday night of the senator's old nemeses.

Limbaugh led the way with a verbal blitz, not just against McCain but against his closest rival in South Carolina, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee.

"I'm here to tell you, if either of these two guys get the nomination, it's going to destroy the Republican Party. It's going to change it forever, be the end of it," Limbaugh fumed on his radio show Tuesday. It was a line of argument that he kept up all week long.

DeLay resurfaced on Fox News Friday to excoriate McCain for working with "the most liberal Democrats in the Senate," for passing an overhaul of campaign finance laws that "completely neutered the Republican Party," and single-handedly thwarted oil drilling in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

"McCain has done more to hurt the Republican Party than any elected official I know of," said DeLay, the former House majority leader, who was personally damaged by McCain's Senate probe of lobbyist Jack Abramoff, a probe that implicated numerous DeLay associates.

Conservative blogger Patrick Ruffini, on the Web site of popular radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt, implored South Carolina Republicans on Friday to vote for Huckabee, simply to extend the nomination fight in hopes that another candidate could derail McCain.

And Jim DeMint, South Carolina's ardently conservative senator who is backing Mitt Romney, issued a message Friday to "fellow conservatives," warning that "Washington experience is the problem, not the solution. We cannot afford to have a President who has fought for amnesty for illegal immigrants, voted against the Bush Tax Cuts, and curtailed our First Amendment rights in the ill-conceived campaign finance legislation." He never mentioned McCain's name, but his meaning was clear.

The assault may well have narrowed McCain's lead over Huckabee, but it was not enough to revive the ghosts of 2000, when an insurgent McCain campaign slammed into a wall in South Carolina, and Bush, the establishment's candidate, cruised to the White House.

In part, that was because this time McCain lined up staunch conservatives of his own, including Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), usually DeMint's closest ally, and Rep. John Shadegg (R-Ariz.), who was vociferous in McCain's defense. "I know John McCain, and he is a solid conservative -- maybe not perfect, but on the most critical issue facing our nation, radical Islam, he is without equal in either party, period," Shadegg said in McCain's defense.

In part, the attacks fell short because even the opponents could not unite behind an alternative. Many economic conservatives were even more opposed to Huckabee. Romney, a Mormon, could not ignite the interests of social conservatives. And former senator Fred Thompson, who was initially viewed as the candidate of the old Republican coalition, failed to catch fire.

But McCain also ran a very different campaign this year. The senator assembled a formidable list of South Carolina backers, including Attorney General Henry McMaster and House Speaker Bobby Harrell, who not only crisscrossed the state for McCain but also launched a "Truth Squad" that prevented any repeat of the attacks on his military record and rumors about his family that helped defeat him in 2000.

"In 2000, the campaign learned that you have to have people that local people know to respond to negative attacks, to assure them they're not true," said Harrell, a Bush supporter in 2000.

McCain even changed the hotel where he watched election returns and the location for his primary-night headquarters, shifting it to The Citadel, the state's military college.

The choice of The Citadel was not accidental. From the start, McCain conveyed one central message to South Carolinians: He is best prepared to protect America in a time of war. The argument resonated in a state that ranks No. 1 in terms of active-duty and retired military personnel, where a quarter of Saturday's GOP electorate had served in the military.

McCain counted heavily on conservative state politicians who had backed Bush in 2000. While some prominent South Carolinians -- such as former governor David Beasley -- endorsed Huckabee, McCain repeatedly told reporters this week, "This time we believe we have the political and financial establishment."

Above all, McCain's victory vindicated his belief that he was better off sticking with his core message that he was better equipped than any other candidate, Republican or Democrat, to meet the challenge of fighting what he calls "radical Islamic extremism."

"After a campaign is over, you win or you lose -- obviously, winning's most important -- you've got to look back and admit mistakes. But you never want to look back and be embarrassed by what you've done," McCain said Friday. "You can't tailor your message and position to one part of the country."

A win in South Carolina may not be as definitive as it was back in 2000, and McCain acknowledges that Florida, which holds its primary Jan. 29, remains a four-way race where he needs to expand his support beyond military families in the north and Cuban Americans in the south.

"We've got work to do there," he said, adding that he needs to reach out to supporters of former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has spent months cultivating Florida voters. "If there's one area we need to work on, it's the middle of the state. There's condominiums full of people who have moved down from New York and New Jersey."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/19/AR2008011903187.html?hpid=topnews
 

Goodpasture

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At this point Romney has 66 and McCain has 38 delegates. Huckabee is third with 26. Huckabee is going to take the south, Romney will take the west, and McCain will take the NE and maybe the midwest. Declaring McCain the nominee at this point is going to be pointless. Give it till Feb 6. Then it will be either Huckabee or McCain. Romney cannot and will not carry the bible belt.
 
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Goodpasture said:
At this point Romney has 66 and McCain has 38 delegates. Huckabee is third with 26. Huckabee is going to take the south, Romney will take the west, and McCain will take the NE and maybe the midwest. Declaring McCain the nominee at this point is going to be pointless. Give it till Feb 6. Then it will be either Huckabee or McCain. Romney cannot and will not carry the bible belt.

You are probably right..Can you see ole Rush and Delay and the neocon establishment folks in D.C. spitting and sputtering if either of those two win the nomination.... :roll: :wink: :lol:

Having an admitted drug addict and a crooked Abramoff associate come out against them- is almost like an endorsement for me, tho :wink:

I never could figure out why the Republican party still has Delay making appearances and talking for them- when he just slimes of and reeks with the oder of corruption...NOT SMART.... :roll:
 
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"OLD FRED" is going to ask his mother what he should do!!!! :roll: :wink: :lol: :lol:

Thompson had been hoping to revive a sagging campaign with a strong showing in South Carolina, and Romney had hoped to place well in the state, despite campaigning in Nevada in the days before the caucuses there.

Thompson, who has called himself the consistent conservative candidate in the race, said he would make up his mind about his future plans after consulting with his mother, who’s in the hospital. Speaking with supporters in Columbia, S.C., he didn’t give any indication about his next steps.
 

Soapweed

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Oldtimer said:
"OLD FRED" is going to ask his mother what he should do!!!! :roll: :wink: :lol: :lol:

Thompson had been hoping to revive a sagging campaign with a strong showing in South Carolina, and Romney had hoped to place well in the state, despite campaigning in Nevada in the days before the caucuses there.

Thompson, who has called himself the consistent conservative candidate in the race, said he would make up his mind about his future plans after consulting with his mother, who’s in the hospital. Speaking with supporters in Columbia, S.C., he didn’t give any indication about his next steps.

This reminds me of when Jimmy Carter told his mother he was thinking of running for President? Her reply was, "Of what?" :)

I see Billy Carter made the list in the Top Twenty Redneck Moments. :roll:
 
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