Will the idiocy never end??????

[Broke Cowboy]

MCOOL is an interesting topic - and as Old Timer knows I always supported it despite it making me unpopular in some Canuck circles.

Be that as it may - in order for the US of A to maintain the export markets they want to keep - AND feed their domestic population - they MUST import beef.

I often wondered which beef got exported to fill those markets.

Canuck beef that is bought by US of A companies?

Canuck beef that is imported by US of A companies?

Canuck beef that is processed by US of A companies?

Or Canuck beef that is exported as American product by US of A companies?

Without that Canuck beef there would be a lot of unemployed Americans in the US of A.

I am not so sure you could stand much more.

Or would it just take another federal subsidy to help the various American companies and corporations survive in the US of A?

Mind you, you could always bring in that high quality beef that is grown south of your borders and feed it to your own folks while you send the home grown stuff off shore.

In the end the Canuck beef gets a bad rap from the American rancher because the American companies are buying, importing, processing, and selling it.

Seems to me the target should not be on the Canuck - it should be turned inwards - to the US ofd A corporations that drive the program - but that is a far more difficult target and they have enough money to make the lives of US of A ranchers difficult - so instead there is a divert and attack strategy and attitude that is perpetuated and meekly followed by many at the primary producer level.

Quite likely encouraged and possibly even financed behind the scenes by the very people who benefit from the present status quo. (No conspiracy theory - just a possiblity)

Who really is getting rich off of this? It takes a surprizingly small amount of money to get some folks to do things.

Only shows how little the average rancher knows about business.

Regards

BC

 

[Anonymous]

The thing that gets me- in all the articles I see- the Canadian consumers (and many producers) want an honest M-COOL too-- and want to know the source(s) of the products they buy and especially they eat...

But instead of Canadian so called cattlemen groups supporting these consumers- and taking up the fight to have a M-COOL equal to the US's- they spend $Millions in fighting the US sovereign right to legislate it...

Personally I think this is mostly a movement by a small group of folks in the ABP/CCA that are in the multinationals/Nillsons pockets- that don't want to give up the monopoy's they have- as many of the local area Canadian cattlemen/producers I have talked to favor M-COOL and think it will be an absolute necessity to compete with the JBS type multinationals of the future....

 

[Broke Cowboy]

The thing that gets me- in all the articles I see- the Canadian consumers (and many producers) want an honest M-COOL too-- and want to know the source(s) of the products they buy and especially they eat...

But instead of Canadian so called cattlemen groups supporting these consumers- and taking up the fight to have a M-COOL equal to the US's- they spend $Millions in fighting the US sovereign right to legislate it...

Personally I think this is mostly a movement by a small group of folks in the ABP/CCA that are in the Nillsons pockets- that don't want to give up the monopoy's they have- as many of the cattlemen/producers I have talked to favor M-COOL and think it will be an absolute necessity to compete with the JBS type multinationals of the future....

You are missing the entire point - and therefore you fall into the same trap - it is not just Canucks.

Look south of the border as well.

That is where the real money lies.

By creating MCOOL and having a nice court case under NAFTA - those companies keep on doing what they want and they rake in the money - smiling while fed bucks go to court.

A perfect diversion that you miss completely while you focus on the complaints of the Canucks.

That beef just keeps rolling on in.

And those companies keep on smiling while they force the prices down using captive supply but making you believe it is just your northern neighbour.

I will step out of this one now - have a good one.

BC

 

[Anonymous]

The thing that gets me- in all the articles I see- the Canadian consumers (and many producers) want an honest M-COOL too-- and want to know the source(s) of the products they buy and especially they eat...

But instead of Canadian so called cattlemen groups supporting these consumers- and taking up the fight to have a M-COOL equal to the US's- they spend $Millions in fighting the US sovereign right to legislate it...

Personally I think this is mostly a movement by a small group of folks in the ABP/CCA that are in the Nillsons pockets- that don't want to give up the monopoy's they have- as many of the cattlemen/producers I have talked to favor M-COOL and think it will be an absolute necessity to compete with the JBS type multinationals of the future....

You are missing the entire point - and therefore you fall into the same trap - it is not just Canucks.

Look south of the border as well.

That is where the real money lies.

By creating MCOOL and having a nice court case under NAFTA - those companies keep on doing what they want and they rake in the money - smiing while fed bucks goe to court.

A perfect diversion that you miss completely while you focus on the complaints of the Canucks.

That beef just keeps rolling on in.

BC

OH- I agree with that about the court case/WTO case - they still have the Canadian Katos- and the ABP/CCA folks packing their slop bucket for them doing their dirty work- trying to kill M-COOL (so they can source meat from the cheapest places anywhere in the world- and pass it off as domestic product) and helping to further divide while these multinationals profiteer...

That is the reason many Canadian producers are waking up and saying they need an equivalent law....
And they need someone to help them fight the monopolistic cattle industry that exists now in Canada...ABP/CCA won't....Canadians had their chance- they had a group (BIG-C) that actually looked like it represented producers- and didn't have all the conflicts of interest in the industry these other groups have (same as our NCBA does)...But Canadians never got it going to much extent- buying the ABP stance that "if you build it- they will come"- that all they had to do was sit back and wait and all these markets would reopen...That was 7 years ago now- and where are these markets ABP/CCA/NCBA/AMI promised would be there :???:

 

[Sandhusker]

You're right, Kato, R-CALF hates Canadian producers and wants all of them to go out of business. R-CALF knows that your goverment and the packers have no responsibility at all - the anti-competitive pro-mega packer environment is solely the responsibilty of Canadian producers and R-CALF knows that if they can cut your heads off, everything will get better. All of R-CALF's actions are CLEARLY, CLEARLY aimed at putting Canadian producers out of business and NOTHING ELSE!

:roll:

sandy musta got religion. He finally spoke a bit of truth.

The Al Sharptons, Jeremiah Wrights and Jesse Jackson's of this world all have their boogeymen that are out to "get them", too. Their "whitey" is your R-CALF.

 

[HAY MAKER]

You're right, Kato, R-CALF hates Canadian producers and wants all of them to go out of business. R-CALF knows that your goverment and the packers have no responsibility at all - the anti-competitive pro-mega packer environment is solely the responsibilty of Canadian producers and R-CALF knows that if they can cut your heads off, everything will get better. All of R-CALF's actions are CLEARLY, CLEARLY aimed at putting Canadian producers out of business and NOTHING ELSE!

:roll:

sandy musta got religion. He finally spoke a bit of truth.

The Al Sharptons, Jeremiah Wrights and Jesse Jackson's of this world all have their boogeymen that are out to "get them", too. Their "whitey" is your R-CALF.

You aint gonna have any luck tryin to talk logic to burnt Sandhusker,his head is so hard hair caint even grow on it
good luck

 

[burnt]

sandy musta got religion. He finally spoke a bit of truth.

The Al Sharptons, Jeremiah Wrights and Jesse Jackson's of this world all have their boogeymen that are out to "get them", too. Their "whitey" is your R-CALF.

You aint gonna have any luck tryin to talk logic to burnt Sandhusker,his head is so hard hair caint even grow on it
good luck

Good one there Hay Maker! You really outdid yourself that time! Sandy and oldcrapper prolly like it too! That's about the depth of thought that they can appreciate . . .

 

[Kato]

Their "whitey" is your R-CALF.

And rcalf's would be????........... gee, I wonder who?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

 

[Sandhusker]

Their "whitey" is your R-CALF.

And rcalf's would be????........... gee, I wonder who?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You choose to believe that it is you as you would rather ignore facts and play the part of the victim, just like Sharpton, Wright, Jackson, etc.... It won't help your cause. You can't fix the problem if you don't know what the problem is.

 

[burnt]

Their "whitey" is your R-CALF.

And rcalf's would be????........... gee, I wonder who?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You choose to believe that it is you as you would rather ignore facts and play the part of the victim, just like Sharpton, Wright, Jackson, etc.... It won't help your cause. You can't fix the problem if you don't know what the problem is.

That might explain rcalf's lack of success in accomplishing anything positive unless you consider making lawyers richer as a positive thing? :lol: :lol: :lol: