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Wish we had another Ronald Reagan waiting in the wings

jingo2

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http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/16/how_do_we_get_rid_of_the_reagan_myth/


Yet the Reagan myth is hard to topple - some of the credit, or blame, belongs to Grover Norquist's Ronald Reagan Legacy Project, which was created in 1997 and has been amazingly successful in renaming roads, post offices, medical centers and airports for the Gipper across both red and blue America, etching his now-iconic image into the political wiring of a generation of voters that was watching the Smurfs when the real Reagan doddered through the Iran-Contra scandal.

So my question for America - and for some of the great minds planning to show up for this discussion this week - is quite simply this: How do we ever get back to the reality-based Ronald Reagan, so that we can focus more clearly on today's problems that are quite often rooted in the warped Reaganism of Bush, Norquist, Dick "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter" Cheney, and others? How do we impress on our political leaders that Reagan's best qualities as a leader weren't "tear down this wall" rigidity but his willingness finally to talk with our adversaries in the Kremlin in pursuit of peace. And how do we convince our chattering classes that Reagan's tax cuts didn't save the American economy, and that our greatest boom times came from undoing Reaganomics over the course of the 1990s. This is how - to quote from the title of the book - the Reagan legacy "haunts our future." No one should ever re-write history. But right now, America's view of modern reality needs a massive correction.
 

Steve

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considering the source... a far left liberal on a far left liberal blog.. and he wants to "re-write history to suit him his party and his agenda..

Talking Points Memo (or TPM) is a web-based political journalism organization created and run by Josh Marshall. It debuted on November 12, 2000. It covers a wide range of topics from a "politically left perspective,"

In addition to criticizing the substance of the proposals, Marshall argued that a unified front in the Democratic Party would deny Republicans political cover and force a loss for them

A "spin-off" blog also created by Josh Marshall is a companion website called TPMCafe, which debuted on 2005-05-31. This site features a collection of blogs about a wide range of domestic and foreign policy issues written by academics, journalists and former public officials among others.

I guess if someone really cared what a far left liberal said on a far left liberal blog, they would be either stupid, or a liberal,, (or both)
 

Lonecowboy

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Soapweed,

In Ronald Reagan, God raised up the perfect leader for us in that time of need. I believe that God is again raising up that perfect leader for us. It won't be Ronald Reagan, hopefully better. All through the Old Testiment we see a cycle of the people falling away from God, then repenting, then God raising up a great Godly leader for them to follow. We are seeing a time of great sorrow and repenting coming to America. But God has a history of raising the spirits of Americans up out of the ashes and taking us to heights we never before imagined.
 

backhoeboogie

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jingo2 said:
So my question for America - and for some of the great minds planning to show up for this discussion this week - is quite simply this: How do we ever get back to the reality-based

Teach the folks that it is impossible to borrow your way out of debt. Our government is not producing goods for profit and can in no way use a business case analysis to justify debt like a corporation can. The government income comes out of our pockets and most of us are not getting value added products for our money as is. Now much of it is going to pay interest on debt which means less value for money TAKEN from us.

If you raise taxes for a given entity, don't spend it on something else and then claim there is no money for that entity.

Prosecute all criminals. Don't give them cheesy government jobs.

Quit slamming business and industry. They are penalized for operating domestically. There are no incentives for expansion. Set up domestically and expect to pay more taxes.

Let California fail. If they insist on paying $180K for an old broken down travel trailer on a 1/8 acre lot, they have no idea of real value in the first place. Don't make the rest of the U.S. continue to pay for their stupidity, their defaults on loans out of convenience, and listen to them call us podunk. Find out of Mexico is willing to take up payments on California. Maybe a few years into this they'll learn real value.

Let the Alaska citizens (and everyone else) rule their own lands. Leave everyone the heck alone.

Listen to the American people.
 

hopalong

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Steve said:
considering the source... a far left liberal on a far left liberal blog.. and he wants to "re-write history to suit him his party and his agenda..

Talking Points Memo (or TPM) is a web-based political journalism organization created and run by Josh Marshall. It debuted on November 12, 2000. It covers a wide range of topics from a "politically left perspective,"

In addition to criticizing the substance of the proposals, Marshall argued that a unified front in the Democratic Party would deny Republicans political cover and force a loss for them

A "spin-off" blog also created by Josh Marshall is a companion website called TPMCafe, which debuted on 2005-05-31. This site features a collection of blogs about a wide range of domestic and foreign policy issues written by academics, journalists and former public officials among others.

I guess if someone really cared what a far left liberal said on a far left liberal blog, they would be either stupid, or a liberal,, (or both)[/quote]

Or be named jingo /kolojingo1 :wink: :wink:
 

backhoeboogie

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hopalong said:
Steve said:
considering the source... a far left liberal on a far left liberal blog.. and he wants to "re-write history to suit him his party and his agenda..

Talking Points Memo (or TPM) is a web-based political journalism organization created and run by Josh Marshall. It debuted on November 12, 2000. It covers a wide range of topics from a "politically left perspective,"

In addition to criticizing the substance of the proposals, Marshall argued that a unified front in the Democratic Party would deny Republicans political cover and force a loss for them

A "spin-off" blog also created by Josh Marshall is a companion website called TPMCafe, which debuted on 2005-05-31. This site features a collection of blogs about a wide range of domestic and foreign policy issues written by academics, journalists and former public officials among others.

I guess if someone really cared what a far left liberal said on a far left liberal blog, they would be either stupid, or a liberal,, (or both)[/quote]

Or be named jingo /kolojingo1 :wink: :wink:

It actually can be quite amusing to see a bunch of twisted people sit around talking about twisted values and supporting one another. But then if Cokie and Sam are there they ask even dumber questions and get them off subject. Liberals arguing with less liberals and they present it as a two sided issue. YES. THEY THINK WE ARE THAT STUPID.
 

jingo2

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Lonecowboy said:
Soapweed,

In Ronald Reagan, God raised up the perfect leader for us in that time of need. I believe that God is again raising up that perfect leader for us. It won't be Ronald Reagan, hopefully better. All through the Old Testiment we see a cycle of the people falling away from God, then repenting, then God raising up a great Godly leader for them to follow. We are seeing a time of great sorrow and repenting coming to America. But God has a history of raising the spirits of Americans up out of the ashes and taking us to heights we never before imagined.

You do know he was a Hollywood actor?

I doubt he was divine in origin by ANY means....................

You folks sure do like put god like status on people.
 

Larrry

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jingo2 said:
You do know he was a Hollywood actor?

I doubt he was divine in origin by ANY means....................

You folks sure do like put god like status on people.

Coming from the odumbo and Clinton crowd that is a hoot. Did you ever try comedy?
 

hypocritexposer

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April 13, 2010
Reagan and Obama; a difference of epic proportions
Camie Davis

Have you felt the earth move the last several days? It's President Reagan rolling in his grave upon President Obama's foreign policy and nuclear goals being favorably compared to Reagan's modus operandi.

Remember a long time ago, in a galaxy far away, Reagan was at the helm guiding the Republic against an Evil Empire. Now with Obama at the helm, we are light years away from the leadership of Reagan. Appeasement of terrorists, political correctness, slow admittance that we are even in a war (or should I say "contingency operation"), believing that just saying no to nukes and singing Kumbaya will solve the world's problems . . . the list grows by the day of the blaring differences between the two presidents.

Natan Sharansky, who experienced the effects of the Evil Empire first-hand when he spent 13 years in the Siberian gulag, was asked by The Weekly Standard about Reagan standing up against the former Soviet Union. Sharansky said, "He had the moral clarity to understand the truth, and the courage both to speak the truth and to do what needed to be done to support it. It was a great, brilliant moment when we learned that Ronald Reagan had proclaimed the Soviet Union an Evil Empire before the entire world. This was the moment. It was the brightest, most glorious day. Finally a spade had been called a spade. Finally, Orwell's Newspeak was dead. President Reagan had from that moment made it impossible for anyone in the West to continue closing their eyes to the real nature of the Soviet Union."

So much for the days of calling a spade a spade as we face the new Evil Empire of terrorism. Under Obama's moral clarity and Newspeak, "Muslim extremist" and "jihad" are being removed from our vocabulary. Political correctness explains that terrorists are really the victims of social ills. Deterrent policies are thrown out the White House window. Israel is reassured that tough measures will be taken against Iran's nuclear program, and then yawn, that memo is placed in the "Eventually Impose Sanctions That Will Bite" file. What a reassuring promise considering all the appeasing bark that is behind the bite. Obama and Reagan being placed in the same category? The two don't even belong in the same galaxy.

Perhaps one of the things that drove Reagan to be such a great leader in the face of an enemy was knowing that the fight at large was for individuals. He was known to keep a list in his coat pocket of people in prison in the Soviet Union. Each time before Secretary of State George Shultz traveled to the former Soviet Union, Reagan pulled out the list and remind Shultz to raise those names to the Soviets. Natan Sharansky was on the list. His freedom was gained because the leader of the United States did not flinch in the face of evil, but systematically called for needed and expected changes.

I can't help but wonder what would happen if Obama carried a list of victims of terrorism in his pocket. Indeed Obama does seem to carry a list. A list of the perpetrators of terrorism to remind himself and his staff, not who they are fighting against, but rather who it is they will appease, aid, and abet. And it is a reminder to all of us of who seems to have Obama snugly in their pocket.


Camie Davis

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/04/reagan_and_obama_a_difference.html
 

hypocritexposer

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Sandhusker

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Angusgord said:
Well if you *********'s think Reagan was so hot as a presdident{he wasn't really even a "good actor" how about we all jump on board and lets campaign for Shawn Penn ,he'd be a good president ,after all he can act

Being a former actor wasn't what made him a great President..... :roll:
 

Mike

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Angusgord said:
Well if you *********'s think Reagan was so hot as a presdident{he wasn't really even a "good actor" how about we all jump on board and lets campaign for Shawn Penn ,he'd be a good president ,after all he can act

First of all, Reagan was a "Patriot". Nuff said. :roll:
 

per

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I'll guarantee that President Reagan never bowed to anyone, anywhere, anytime. He also respected the flag and the Constitution. Funny he is judged by a previous career and not his work as President. I guess the present day President will not by those standards be able to rise above being a Community Organizer which is what he spent more time doing than any other job including Senator.
 
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