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WMD: The WikiLeaks Vindication of George W. Bush

hypocritexposer

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The WikiLeaks Vindication of George W. Bush
By Larry Elder
12/9/2010 The WikiLeaks de facto declassification of privileged material makes it case closed: Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction -- and intended to restart his program once the heat was off.

President George W. Bush, in the 2003 State of the Union address, uttered the infamous "16 words": "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

Former Ambassador Joe Wilson sprang into action and, in an op-ed piece, in effect wrote, "No, the Cheney administration sent me to investigate the allegation -- and I found it without merit."

Put aside that Wilson's CIA-employed wife, not the evil Vice President Dick Cheney -- as Wilson implied -- sent him on the African errand. Put aside that the British still stand by the intelligence on which Bush made the claim. And put aside that the anti-Bush Washington Post, in an editorial, concluded that Wilson had lied about not finding evidence to support the Iraq-in-Africa-for-uranium claim, since he told the CIA the opposite when he reported back from Africa.

Bush claimed that Iraq sought uranium, specifically "yellowcake." What is yellowcake, and why would its presence or attempted acquisition corroborate the nearly unanimous assumption that Saddam possessed WMD?

The Associated Press called yellowcake "the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment" and said that it "also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment."

"Bush and Iraq: Follow the Yellow Cake Road" headlined a euphoric Time magazine July 2003 piece -- written when the Bush administration began backtracking from the Iraq-sought-uranium-from-Africa claim. Time said no yellowcake equals no WMD equals bogus basis for war.

The article led with this ripper: "Is a fib really a fib if the teller is unaware that he is uttering an untruth? That question appears to be the basis of the White House defense, having now admitted a falsehood in President Bush's claim, in his State of the Union address, that Iraq had tried to buy uranium in Africa."

Time hoisted (the now discredited) Joe Wilson on its shoulders as The Man Who Told the Truth to Power: "Just last weekend, the man sent by the CIA to check out the Niger story broke cover and revealed that he had thoroughly debunked the allegation many months before President Bush repeated it." Never mind that the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that Wilson's report "lent more credibility to the original Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) reports on the uranium deal" sought by Iraq in Niger.

Let's recap.

Bush, in building the case for war against Iraq, lied to the nation. He falsely claimed that Iraq was attempting to purchase yellowcake from Africa. Time magazine specifically referred to the yellowcake "lie" in accusing Bush of fabricating the case for war. Therefore, were Iraq to have had yellowcake -- an assertion called a "lie" -- it would have confirmed the presence of WMD, giving credence to Bush's declaration of Iraq as a "grave and gathering threat."

But ... there ... was ... yellowcake. This brings us back to WikiLeaks.

Wired magazine's contributing editor Noah Shachtman -- a nonresident fellow at the liberal Brookings Institution -- researched the 400,000 WikiLeaked documents released in October. Here's what he found: "By late 2003, even the Bush White House's staunchest defenders were starting to give up on the idea that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But WikiLeaks' newly-released Iraq war documents reveal that for years afterward, U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter insurgent specialists in toxins and uncover weapons of mass destruction (emphasis added). ... Chemical weapons, especially, did not vanish from the Iraqi battlefield. Remnants of Saddam's toxic arsenal, largely destroyed after the Gulf War, remained. Jihadists, insurgents and foreign (possibly Iranian) agitators turned to these stockpiles during the Iraq conflict -- and may have brewed up their own deadly agents."

In 2008, our military shipped out of Iraq -- on 37 flights in 3,500 barrels -- what even The Associated Press called "the last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program": 550 metric tons of the supposedly nonexistent yellowcake. The New York Sun editorialized: "The uranium issue is not a trivial one, because Iraq, sitting on vast oil reserves, has no peaceful need for nuclear power. ... To leave this nuclear material sitting around the Middle East in the hands of Saddam ... would have been too big a risk."

Now the mainscream media no longer deem yellowcake -- the WMD Bush supposedly lied about -- a WMD. It was, well, old. It was degraded. It was not what we think of when we think of WMD. Really? Square that with what former Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean said in April 2004: "There were no weapons of mass destruction." MSNBC's Rachel Maddow goes even further, insisting, against the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that "Saddam Hussein was not pursuing weapons of mass destruction"!

Bush, hammered by the insidious "Bush Lied, People Died" mantra, endured one of the most vicious smears against any president in history. He is owed an apology.

When Hollywood makes "The Vindication of George W. Bush," maybe Sean Penn can play the lead.

http://townhall.com/columnists/LarryElder/2010/12/09/the_wikileaks_vindication_of_george_w_bush/page/full/
 

Steve

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U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter insurgent specialists in toxins and uncover weapons of mass destruction (emphasis added). ... Chemical weapons, especially, did not vanish from the Iraqi battlefield. Remnants of Saddam's toxic arsenal, largely destroyed after the Gulf War, remained. Jihadists, insurgents and foreign (possibly Iranian) agitators turned to these stockpiles during the Iraq conflict -- and may have brewed up their own deadly agents."

In 2008, our military shipped out of Iraq -- on 37 flights in 3,500 barrels -- what even The Associated Press called "the last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program": 550 metric tons of the supposedly nonexistent yellowcake. The New York Sun editorialized: "The uranium issue is not a trivial one, because Iraq, sitting on vast oil reserves, has no peaceful need for nuclear power. ... To leave this nuclear material sitting around the Middle East in the hands of Saddam ... would have been too big a risk."

I am not sure why the Bush administration never admitted all the proof the solders dealt with in Iraq, but it was a bit frustrating for the soldiers who saw the evidence only to keep hearing there were no WMDs..

maybe he felt that no proof, or pile of evidence would be good enough for the press...
 

loomixguy

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But....but......but.....but......all we kept reading here at Rancher's from a certain former "officer" was the war was all about oil.....oil....OIL! Oil, so Bush & Cheney and all their fatcat warmongering rightwing neocon pals could get even filthier rich, if it was possible. This certain "officer" imagined his line of thought was vindicated because "No WMD's were ever found". GASP! Is it possible that our own beloved "officer" could have been.......wrong?? Wonder if he's developed a taste for crow, cause a lot of it has been stacked on his plate like pancakes lately.
 

jigs

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COme on now Loomix guy...... you know very well that good old one term sherriff, is only anti Bush because he has not got the under the table money from big oil. he is a typical small county mountie, gotta grease the squeeky wheel.... now if big oil was padding his pocket, he would be 100% pro Bush and Cheny !
 

loomixguy

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Didn't he recently just brag about signing some leases? And being "economically comfortable"? Maybe due to those leases, or at least in part.....?

Soooooo......he couldn't curse Bush and Big Oil enough, but he sure will wrap his grubby little paws around some of the dough Big Oil is spreading around. There's that word again.....OTYPOCRISY. :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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NO WMD'S WERE EVER FOUND. Wake up Neocons. Bush family is in the oil and military (Carlyle Group) business with the Bin Laden Family.

there was no independent investigation into 9/11. Bush would not go under oath and be interviewed alone about 9/11 as he is GUILTY.
 
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Anonymous

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loomixguy said:
shaumei said:
NO WMD'S WERE EVER FOUND.


Proof, cretin. Where's your proof? Were you over there?

the Neocons admitted they found nothing...but they guaranteed they knew where they were..you took the bait and are still waiting for the proof...you are such a mark.
 

hopalong

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shaumei said:
loomixguy said:
shaumei said:
NO WMD'S WERE EVER FOUND.


Proof, cretin. Where's your proof? Were you over there?

the Neocons admitted they found nothing...but they guaranteed they knew where they were..you took the bait and are still waiting for the proof...you are such a mark.

boooooo hoooooooo POOR OLD SHAME FULL(of it) :cry2: :cry2:
 

loomixguy

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WERE YOU OVER THERE, SIMPLETON?

You seem to rely heavily on what folks say for your "facts", but I had a relative who was there when certain items were discovered, and those items damn sure weren't Sunday School songbooks. They were ordered to keep their mouths shut about what was found.

If you want to see a real "mark" you have to look no further than in your own mirror.
 
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Anonymous

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loomixguy said:
WERE YOU OVER THERE, SIMPLETON?

You seem to rely heavily on what folks say for your "facts", but I had a relative who was there when certain items were discovered, and those items damn sure weren't Sunday School songbooks. They were ordered to keep their mouths shut about what was found.

If you want to see a real "mark" you have to look no further than in your own mirror.

they were ordered to keep their mouths shut because we supplied them with all of their chemical weapons. this is not something that they wanted in the world press....there were no wmd's that we did not know about that they produced without our knowledge though....it was for their oil...how did we get into the first war...we told sadaam if he attacked kuwait we would not do anything to him....he did and we lied...this came from bush sr.
 

hypocritexposer

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shaumei said:
loomixguy said:
WERE YOU OVER THERE, SIMPLETON?

You seem to rely heavily on what folks say for your "facts", but I had a relative who was there when certain items were discovered, and those items damn sure weren't Sunday School songbooks. They were ordered to keep their mouths shut about what was found.

If you want to see a real "mark" you have to look no further than in your own mirror.

they were ordered to keep their mouths shut because we supplied them with all of their chemical weapons. this is not something that they wanted in the world press....there were no wmd's that we did not know about that they produced without our knowledge though....it was for their oil...how did we get into the first war...we told sadaam if he attacked kuwait we would not do anything to him....he did and we lied...this came from bush sr.


there were no WMDs that we did not know about... :lol:


Shamoo: " there were no WMDs" :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Liveoak

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shaumei said:
NO WMD'S WERE EVER FOUND. Wake up Neocons. Bush family is in the oil and military (Carlyle Group) business with the Bin Laden Family.

there was no independent investigation into 9/11. Bush would not go under oath and be interviewed alone about 9/11 as he is GUILTY.

Shaumei, how do you account for the gassing of hundreds of Kurds? Is that not mass destruction in your eyes?
 

hopalong

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shaumei said:
loomixguy said:
WERE YOU OVER THERE, SIMPLETON?

You seem to rely heavily on what folks say for your "facts", but I had a relative who was there when certain items were discovered, and those items damn sure weren't Sunday School songbooks. They were ordered to keep their mouths shut about what was found.

If you want to see a real "mark" you have to look no further than in your own mirror.

they were ordered to keep their mouths shut because we supplied them with all of their chemical weapons. this is not something that they wanted in the world press....there were no wmd's that we did not know about that they produced without our knowledge though....it was for their oil...how did we get into the first war...we told sadaam if he attacked kuwait we would not do anything to him....he did and we lied...this came from bush sr.



Hey clueless shammooo i am sitll waiting for your call! You revieved my pm with my phone number....
PARANOD??? COWARD????LIAR????? You said you would call!!!
which is it besides all of the above ?????
COFFEE??? FREEFALL SPEED???INTERNAL COMBUSTION????NEED YOUR DIAPERS CHANGED???

:D :D :D :D :D
 

Silver

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Liveoak said:
shaumei said:
NO WMD'S WERE EVER FOUND. Wake up Neocons. Bush family is in the oil and military (Carlyle Group) business with the Bin Laden Family.

there was no independent investigation into 9/11. Bush would not go under oath and be interviewed alone about 9/11 as he is GUILTY.

Shaumei, how do you account for the gassing of hundreds of Kurds? Is that not mass destruction in your eyes?

Maybe wmd's actually supplied by the US didn't count? :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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Silver said:
Liveoak said:
shaumei said:
NO WMD'S WERE EVER FOUND. Wake up Neocons. Bush family is in the oil and military (Carlyle Group) business with the Bin Laden Family.

there was no independent investigation into 9/11. Bush would not go under oath and be interviewed alone about 9/11 as he is GUILTY.

Shaumei, how do you account for the gassing of hundreds of Kurds? Is that not mass destruction in your eyes?

Maybe wmd's actually supplied by the US didn't count? :wink:

Silver is right on the money. we supplied those weapons.
 

Whitewing

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shaumei said:
Silver said:
Liveoak said:
Shaumei, how do you account for the gassing of hundreds of Kurds? Is that not mass destruction in your eyes?

Maybe wmd's actually supplied by the US didn't count? :wink:

Silver is right on the money. we supplied those weapons.

So what? At that time the Iraqis were fighting the Iranians......the enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of thing.

The biggest concern of the Bush Admin in a post 9-11 world was that Saddam still had assorted WMD's and that they could be funneled into the hands of the likes of al Qaeda. Made sense to me, especially considering that Iraqi forces were continuously threatening our aircraft (there by treaty) and giving the UN the run-around on the inspections.

I'm betting too that if Bush had done nothing, and WMD's had fallen into the hands of al Qeada via Saddam, guys like Shamu would have been screaming the loudest that there was an obvious conspiracy there.
 
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Anonymous

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Whitewing said:
shaumei said:
Silver said:
Maybe wmd's actually supplied by the US didn't count? :wink:

Silver is right on the money. we supplied those weapons.

So what? At that time the Iraqis were fighting the Iranians......the enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of thing.

The biggest concern of the Bush Admin in a post 9-11 world was that Saddam still had assorted WMD's and that they could be funneled into the hands of the likes of al Qaeda. Made sense to me, especially considering that Iraqi forces were continuously threatening our aircraft (there by treaty) and giving the UN the run-around on the inspections.

I'm betting too that if Bush had done nothing, and WMD's had fallen into the hands of al Qeada via Saddam, guys like Shamu would have been screaming the loudest that there was an obvious conspiracy there.

you mean Al CIA Da? when are they going to bring in Bush family business partner Osama Bin Laden? you believe anything these brainwashing machines feed you whitewing. no brains to put the pieces together yourself.

bush sr. set up saddam when he told him to invade kuwait and he would do nothing. saddam did and we attacked him. all set up as saddam thought he was our partner at the time.
 

Whitewing

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shaumei said:
Whitewing said:
shaumei said:
Silver is right on the money. we supplied those weapons.

So what? At that time the Iraqis were fighting the Iranians......the enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of thing.

The biggest concern of the Bush Admin in a post 9-11 world was that Saddam still had assorted WMD's and that they could be funneled into the hands of the likes of al Qaeda. Made sense to me, especially considering that Iraqi forces were continuously threatening our aircraft (there by treaty) and giving the UN the run-around on the inspections.

I'm betting too that if Bush had done nothing, and WMD's had fallen into the hands of al Qeada via Saddam, guys like Shamu would have been screaming the loudest that there was an obvious conspiracy there.

you mean Al CIA Da? when are they going to bring in Bush family business partner Osama Bin Laden? you believe anything these brainwashing machines feed you whitewing. no brains to put the pieces together yourself.

bush sr. set up saddam when he told him to invade kuwait and he would do nothing. saddam did and we attacked him. all set up as saddam thought he was our partner at the time.

I missed the part about Bush Sr. telling Saddam to invade Kuwait, could you direct me to those quotes?

And to follow your "logic" here Shamu, Bush set up Saddam by encouraging him to invade Kuwait, then attacked him, but left him in power afterwards. Is that how it went?

Exactly what did the Bush family gain from that exercise?
 
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Anonymous

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War is about two things primarily:

1) money
2) money

follow the money and you will find the reasons for the wars. Iraq never invaded us but they sit on the second largest oil reserve in the world. it amazes me you think we did it to liberate the Iraqi people. We have now murdered over 1.3 million of them.
 
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