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Wonder If This Type Ad Sells Meat?

Mike

Well-known member
antibiotics.jpg


Had to go to Atlanta yesterday and took this while in the train station.

Wonder if these folks take antibiotics when they get sick?
 

flounder

Well-known member
Mike said:
antibiotics.jpg


Had to go to Atlanta yesterday and took this while in the train station.

Wonder if these folks take antibiotics when they get sick?



taking antibiotics when a doctor prescribes them is one thing (and even doctors misuse of antibiotics is in question here in some cases), but giving them to livestock because the conditions in which they are raised are so inadequate, and so disgusting, that they are diseased and dieing when they go to slaughter, well this is another question.
your question was bizarre to say the least. are you saying that you support the overuse and complete disregard for what they were designed to be used for $$$

http://www.cdc.gov/narms/get_smart.htm


Our investigation found that you hold animals under conditions which are so
inadequate that medicated animals bearing potentially harmful drug residues
may enter the food supply. Food from animals held under such conditions is
adulterated within the meaning of section 402(a)(4) [21 U.S.C. § 342(a)(4)]
of the Act. You lack a system to ensure that animals you buy and sell have
not been medicated or, if they have been medicated, that allows you or
subsequent buyers to withhold the animals from slaughter for an appropriate
period of time to deplete potentially hazardous residues of drugs from
edible tissues.


http://lists.ifas.ufl.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0705&L=sanet-mg&P=14542


http://www.microbes.info/forums/index.php?showtopic=155



just this past week ;


Food Safety and Inspection Service (USDA/FSIS) analysis of tissue samples collected from that animal identified the presence of sulfadimethoxine at 5.69 parts per million (ppm) in the muscle. A tolerance of 0.1 ppm has been established for residues of sulfadimethoxine in the edible tissues of cattle as codified in Title 21, Code of Federal Regulations, section 556.640. The presence of this drug in the edible tissue from this animal causes the food to be adulterated within the meaning of section 402(a)(2)(C)(ii) [21 U.S.C. § 342(a)(2)(C)(ii)] of the Act.

Our investigation also found that you hold animals under conditions that are so inadequate that medicated animals bearing potentially harmful drug residues are likely to enter the food supply. You lack an adequate system to ensure that animals medicated by you have been withheld from slaughter for appropriate periods of time to permit depletion of potentially hazardous residues of drugs from edible tissues. For example, you failed to maintain complete treatment records to include the dosage given and route of administration. Further, you lack an adequate inventory system for determining the quantities of drugs used to medicate your animal(s). Food from animals held under such conditions are adulterated within the meaning of section 402(a)(4) [21 U.S.C. § 342(a)(4)] of the Act.

http://www.fda.gov/foi/warning_letters/s6365c.htm



On or about November 3, 2006, you sold a dairy cow, identified with Back Tag Number [redacted], for slaughter as food to [redacted], who subsequently sold the animal to [redacted], that same day. [redacted], shipped the cow to [redacted]. On or about November 4, 2006, this animal was slaughtered at [redacted]. United States Department of Agriculture, Food Safety and Inspection Service (USDA/FSIS) analysis of tissue samples collected from that animal identified the presence of 17.91 parts per million (ppm) of sulfamethazine in the liver tissue and 21.22 ppm of sulfamethazine in the muscle tissue. A tolerance of 0.10 ppm has been established for negligible residues of sulfamethazine in the uncooked edible tissues of cattle, as codified in Title 21, Code of Federal Regulations, Section 556.670 (21 C.F.R. 556.670). The presence of sulfamethazine above the established tolerance level in uncooked edible tissues from this animal causes the food to be adulterated within the meaning of section 402(a)(2)(C)(ii) [(21 U.S.C. § 342(a)(2)(C)(ii)] of the Act.

Our inspection also found that you hold animals under conditions that are so inadequate that medicated animals bearing potentially harmful drug residues are likely to enter the food supply. You lack an adequate system to ensure that animals medicated by you have been withheld from slaughter for appropriate periods of time to permit depletion of potentially hazardous residues of drugs from edible tissues. For example, you failed to maintain complete treatment records. You also lack an adequate inventory system for determining the quantities of drugs used to medicate your livestock. Food from animals held under such conditions is adulterated within the meaning of section 402(a)(4) [21 U.S.C. § 342(a)(4)]. of the Act.


http://www.fda.gov/foi/warning_letters/s6364c.htm


THIS goes on week after week, month after month, year after year, to this day.

To answer your question mike ;


> Wonder If This Type Ad Sells Meat?


AS the consumer gets wiser, and the producer continues to become more ignorant and greedy,
you bet it will sell more product. we try and buy nothing but antibiotic free dairy and meat, and would buy more meat products, IF they were tested for the TSE i.e. mad cow agent, and i am sure the consumer overseas would buy much more, but considering the USDA disregard for these factors, your product will be looked at with great suspicion, and i don't look to see this getting any better in the near future. for Pete's sake, i had to look at my friggen tooth paste today to make sure it was not from china and did not contain anti-freeze. and some nut just slipped through the border with a deadly pathogen, slipped right by homeland security, after there was a warning in plain english not to let this guy through, but he _looked_ o.k. ??? nothing has changed since i wrote that bio-security factor from air traffic and dangerous pathogens via meat products coming in from overseas via air passenger traffic. it was like when these fools showed up at the border with a suitcase full of product that COULD contain the BSE/TSE agent, FMD, or anything else, they were simply questioned as;


Greetings FDA and public,



if you go to the below site, and search all BSE known countries and
check out their air traffic illegal meat they have confiscated, and
check out the low number checked, compared to actual passenger traffic,
would not take too much for some nut to bring in FMD/TSEs into the USA
as a 'suitcase bomb'.

[[Under APHIS-PPQ's agricultural quarantine inspection monitoring, 284
air passengers from Israel were sampled for items of agricultural
interest in fiscal year 2001. Seven of these passengers, or 2 percent,
carried a total of 11 kg of meat items that could potentially harbor the
pathogen that causes BSE. None of these passengers from whom meat items
were confiscated reported plans to visit or work on a ranch or farm
during their visit to the U.S.]]

if they were to have questioned the terrorist that bombed the Twin
Towers with jets, if they were to have questioned them at flight school
in the USA, i am sure that they would have said they did not intend to
visit the Twin Towers as a flying bomb either. what am i thinking, they
probably did ask this? stupid me.

[[In 1999 a small amount of non-species specific meat and offal was
imported and a small amount of fetal bovine serum (FBS) was also
imported. FBS is considered to have a relatively low risk of
transmitting BSE.]]

more of the USA infamous 'non-species coding system', wonder how many of
these species are capable of carrying a TSE?

snip...

A total of 524,401 passengers arrived on direct flights to the U.S. from
Israel in fiscal year 2000. This number does not include passengers who
arrived in the U.S. from Israel via indirect flights.

Under APHIS-PPQ's agricultural quarantine inspection monitoring, 284 air
passengers from Israel were sampled for items of agricultural interest
in fiscal year 2001. Seven of these passengers, or 2 percent, carried a
total of 11 kg of meat items that could potentially harbor the pathogen
that causes BSE. None of these passengers from whom meat items were
confiscated reported plans to visit or work on a ranch or farm during
their visit to the U.S.

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/ceah/cei/bse_israel0602.htm


snip... full text ;

http://lists.ifas.ufl.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0610&L=sanet-mg&P=19979



Docket Management
Docket: 02N-0276 - Bioterrorism Preparedness; Registration of Food Facilities, Section 305
Comment Number: EC -254
Accepted - Volume 11




http://www.fda.gov/OHRMS/DOCKETS/DOCKETS/02n0276/02N-0276-EC-254.htm


sorry mike, i just could not see your logic about the overuse of antibiotics in livestock, just because of the diseased and disgusting way they are raised under factory farming conditions ???


TSS
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Mike said:
antibiotics.jpg


Had to go to Atlanta yesterday and took this while in the train station.

Wonder if these folks take antibiotics when they get sick?

It shows me that price isn't the only thing consumers are concerned about.
 

Mike

Well-known member
Fishman wrote:
your question was bizarre to say the least. are you saying that you support the overuse and complete disregard for what they were designed to be used for $$$

Bizarre question? Take a hike flounder. I was just wondering how many people will use this ad to help them decide to eat at Chipotle's.

I am a proponent of using all medications for the intended uses only.

Maybe you need to take a few Valiums. :roll:

Or maybe you have taken too many?
 

HAY MAKER

Well-known member
Mike said:
Fishman wrote:
your question was bizarre to say the least. are you saying that you support the overuse and complete disregard for what they were designed to be used for $$$

Bizarre question? Take a hike flounder. I was just wondering how many people will use this ad to help them decide to eat at Chipotle's.

I am a proponent of using all medications for the intended uses only.

Maybe you need to take a few Valiums. :roll:

Or maybe you have taken too many?

Careful Mike or flounder will be cuttin /pastin 3 foot long articles again :D
good luck
 

flounder

Well-known member
Mike said:
Fishman wrote:
your question was bizarre to say the least. are you saying that you support the overuse and complete disregard for what they were designed to be used for $$$

Bizarre question? Take a hike flounder. I was just wondering how many people will use this ad to help them decide to eat at Chipotle's.

I am a proponent of using all medications for the intended uses only.

Maybe you need to take a few Valiums. :roll:

Or maybe you have taken too many?



mike i would have expected more from you, than some cheap rhetoric like this. ... but i guess not. ...tss
 
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