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Worst President in Your Lifetime

RoperAB

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Judith said:
Clinton then Carter

Ours has been Mulroney and I voted for the guy! Fricken sold us out to the US. Free trade my butt. Canada lost big time on that one..... We are still getting screwed to this day.....

Haha Yet most Americans on here seem to think we are screwing them.
Econ I hope you read this!!!! :wink: :lol: :lol:
 

Soapweed

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Carter was the worst, for all of the reasons that Steve mentioned. Lyndon Baines Johnson was a close second. I have a book entitled A TEXAN LOOKS AT LYNDON by J. Evetts Haley, written before the election of 1964. LBJ had taken over as President when JFK was assinated in 1963, and he was up for re-election in the fall of 1964. I have loaned out my book to my brother-in-law, but the introduction by Haley went something like this, "I am fellow Texan, and a fellow Democrat, but I cannot let the American public go to the polls without telling them of what I know about Lyndon Johnson." The whole book deals with the underhandedness with which LBJ operated.

Here is a review of that book, as found on the internet:

Reviewer: Randall Ivey "Randall" (USA) - See all my reviews
Haley wrote this book (and published it himself) in 1964 basically as a campaign tract for Barry Goldwater. In the intervening years it has become a classic of its kind,a philippic, to use M.E. Bradford's term, tracing the illegitimate rise to power of Lyndon Baines Johnson. If you're politically naive, this book will grown hair on your chest. It's an unblinking, fearless portrait of Johnson's wheeling dealing and underhanded methods to achieve the power, prestige, and money he craved all his life. Haley names all the names and lays out facts and figures for the reader to make up his mind. And the reader winds up shaking his head in utter astonishment. The best part of the book is that detailing Johnson's eventual election to the U.S. Senate in a contest with former Gov. Coke Stevenson. The election was clearly Stevenson's, but through the machinations of George Parr, the notorious Duke of Duval County, the results were turned around in LBJ's favor. Investigators later found that among those voting in the primary were people who didn't live in the county anymore and people who weren't alive at all. But the results stood.(An interesting and amusing aside: when Haley ran for Texas governor in 1956, he approached Parr and said, "I'm Evetts Haley. I'm running for governor, and if I win, it will be my privilege to put you in jail." Parr's reply: "I believe you will." Parr, the Artful Dodger of Texas politics for years, eventually killed himself.)
At times the book grows tiresome, especially in the Bobby Baker and Billie Sol Estes scandals, where Haley turns a virtual torrent of names and numbers on the reader as to be sometimes confusing. But slog through those sections to get to the excellent chapter where LBJ wields an iron hand as Senate Majority Leader and maneuvers himself into the Vice Presidency. It is chilling.
Haley suffered considerable damage to his reputation as a result of this book, but he never backed down, and now time seems to be bearing out the truth of his claims, which have also been verified in such later works as the Robert Caro books. This is an indispensable lesson in this Presidential election year. Read it and weep.

Anyway those two, Carter and Lyndon Johnson, get my votes as the two worst presidents in American history. Clinton was awfully awful, also, but the other two were worse.
 

Judith

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Hey Roper,
I honestly don't think most Americans realise just how much we lost on that deal.. But we have bigger problems in BC at the moment. Land claims again. AAAAA. I think I'm going to claim to be a native since they have proven that Vikings arrived before the natives. Does this mean I can have my land back!!! I'm sure that one of them folks must be kin :D
 

the chief

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I dont think Nixon was that bad. He could have won Vietnam if he would not have been undermined at home. He couldnt negotiate a peace because the VCs knew he was going to have to withdraw. This is why the Nixon/Vietnam plan failed.
On a personal level I think Nixon was a good guy. It was those damn dirty hippies that drove him half crazy. Who could hold that against him?
I loved the way he would flash the old double peace signs to p*** off the hippies
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

My God, I hope you are a comedy writer, cause that is just so danged funny. Blaming the hippies for one of the most paranoid, twisted, egocentric jerks that ever led this country is just priceless. It should be on SNL.
Sad thing is, when I say paranoia, this current administration comes to mind. They will take down anyone who gets in their way. I don't blame that on Bush as much as I do Cheney. I truly believe that man is so vindictive he would take out his own mother if he thought she dissed him.

Dick Nixon before Nixon dicks you! :wink:
 

Steve

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K wrote:
I said that Carter was left holding the bag-o-shite to clean up the mess and insecurities that Nixon left in his wake!!!

But Nixon did not leave carter a mess....and my post showed that,,all yours indicated was a biased view.....(and a swear word),,,,

Carter screwed up all on his own....

Carter was a dismal failure....

Nixon was a sucess that made one mistake

By the same token Clinton made an equal mistake and survived the impeachment process.....but his presidancy was unremasrkable in that he accomplished little...
 

RoperAB

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the chief said:
I dont think Nixon was that bad. He could have won Vietnam if he would not have been undermined at home. He couldnt negotiate a peace because the VCs knew he was going to have to withdraw. This is why the Nixon/Vietnam plan failed.
On a personal level I think Nixon was a good guy. It was those damn dirty hippies that drove him half crazy. Who could hold that against him?
I loved the way he would flash the old double peace signs to p*** off the hippies
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

My God, I hope you are a comedy writer, cause that is just so danged funny. Blaming the hippies for one of the most paranoid, twisted, egocentric jerks that ever led this country is just priceless. It should be on SNL.
Sad thing is, when I say paranoia, this current administration comes to mind. They will take down anyone who gets in their way. I don't blame that on Bush as much as I do Cheney. I truly believe that man is so vindictive he would take out his own mother if he thought she dissed him.

Dick Nixon before Nixon dicks you! :wink:

Nixon was like a lot of people. He was naive in that he thought he could keep things quiet like Cambodia. He should have known that he could not keep something like that quiet. Government conspiracies never work or last very long. But he didnt have the support on the home front to win that war. Nixon wanted to win the war and the dirty hippie traitors wanted America to lose the war.
Here is the thing, what Nixon did in the war was the right stuff to be doing. He just did stuff without really having the athority <congress> to do it.
Nixon could have cleaned up the mess and gave America an honourable end to the war but the VCs knew that Nixon had to withdraw because of lack of support back home for the war. This undermined and prevented any kind of honourable end to the war.
You know 100 years ago Kitchener knew the only way you can win against guerilla fighting was a "scorched earth policy". You have to get the women and children out of the battle zone "concentration camps" and then hold nothing back and clear one area after another.
Its because of public oppinion at home, who seems to care more about the enemy than the welfare of our own soldiers that has hurt us in every war since Korea.
Its the same thing in Iraq today with the Islamofacists and the traitors who live among us.
Its no wonder Nixon was parinoid, he just didnt understand why so many Americans where on the side of the communists. What he didnt realize was on the home front he was dealing with misguided morons who were dopped up on LSD who where to dumb to realize that they were traitors. I dont think Nixon could comprehend how stupid these dirty hippies were so he naturally assumed they were on side with the communists.
 

Faster horses

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I'm glad to read this stuff about Nixon. I was pretty young at the time he
was president, but I always thought more of him than it seemed the
American people as a whole did.

I remember one year at Christmas, my folks gave me a picture of Nixon framed in a toilet seat. They thought it was funny, but I didn't appreciate it one bit.

But, my folks were liberals...they just didn't get it. Luckily, I had
good friends that set me straight early on.

Obviously, some on this site didn't have these kind of friends. :wink:
 

kolanuraven

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Now this will make some of you wonder.....but I liked Nixon....BUT he , like Bush is doing now, listened to people around him who were " yes men". They told him what he wanted to hear.....and it lead to a train wreck.

But as a Pres. I'm 45 and I remember him and I think he was as good as the rest ......if not a wee bit better.


He got stupid and let his ego lead him by the nose . But..... :lol: :lol: that is a L-O-N-G line to be in.
 

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