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XL Keystone - Where Are The Nimby's Now?

Mike

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Fatsquatch could not have been more wrong about who was the holdup on the pipeline. Meanwhile, Warren Buffet thanks Buckwheat for all the freight income...........................



It's not often officials from the nation’s largest business lobby and an AFL-CIO-affiliated union speak to one another, let alone work together. But last week, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and North America’s Building Trades Unions held a joint press conference on Capitol Hill in support of the Keystone XL pipeline that would bring oil from Northern Alberta to the Gulf of Mexico. Nearby that same day, exactly five years after Trans-Canada Corp. applied for a permit to build the pipeline, the House Energy and Commerce Committee held a hearing whose title said it all: “Keystone’s Red Tape Anniversary: Five Years of Bureaucratic Delay and Economic Benefits Denied.”


Both events featured a bipartisan group of policymakers and experts whose statements ranged from puzzlement to pique that the Obama administration still hadn’t adjudicated TransCanada’s application. Keystone’s five-year review has taken “far longer than any other cross-border pipeline project and more than twice as long as it will take to build the pipeline,” Building Trades president Sean McGarvey said. Lucian Pugliaresi, president of the Energy Policy Research Foundation, declared at the hearing, “It’s not something that should have created all this furor.”
 

loomixguy

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Old Flatulence wrong!?? Impossible! He's got files on all of us, you know.

And here I thought that living where I do, I was the cause of the holdup.
 

Mike

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Yep. He lied about it to try and get the monkey off of Buckwheat's back.

But then that's a normal occurrence for him....................
 

Faster horses

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Oh yeah, Obama has made a 'fat cat' fatter regarding Warren Buffet.

We have a BN train track that runs through our place and it is unbelievable the oil cars that go through now. We never used to see them at all.

We just got back from a trip to Washington and Oregon and saw a lot of oil cars on the trains there the whole way over and back. Crazy what Obama has forced on this country. :x
 

Cowpuncher

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The railroads are making a pile of money hauling oil.

The oil companies are doing OK since they are not location-specific like the pipeline.

Other than wasting alot of money on excess freight, who cares anymore?

CP
 

Faster horses

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Cowpuncher said:
The railroads are making a pile of money hauling oil.

The oil companies are doing OK since they are not location-specific like the pipeline.

Other than wasting alot of money on excess freight, who cares anymore?

CP

People who need JOBS?

Counties who get tax revenue from pipeline companies...
 

hypocritexposer

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One of the reasons for not approving the pipeline is safety. But they do not have any facts to back up their position, just like everything else, when it comes to the "left"




http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/ib_23.htm#.UkId4z8plf0
 

hypocritexposer

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and then there is this:


“no close correlation exists between temperature variation over the past 150 years and human related CO2 emissions.” -

See more at: http://emergingcorruption.com/2013/09/global-warming-the-biggest-lie-exposed/#sthash.wCenQ616.tnqXpeBB.dpuf
 

AC Diesel

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In my area of the sandhills when you remove the existing sod it takes years to heal. I am especially worried about our ground water. I can hit ground water with a post hole digger all around this area. If they would just move it 75 to 100 miles east of here I wouldn't worry so much. There they have a lot heavier soil, clay etc. Our sand lets chemicals leech into ground water to easily. Their track record isn't that great on the KXL1, they had several leaks in it's first year of operation, something like 10 or 11.
 

Whitewing

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hypocritexposer said:
AC Diesel said:
12 spills in the first year 640 barrels total

that sounds like a lot. what was the environmental damage done?

did you see what happened in Quebec, when the train derailed?

No, that actually doesn't sound like a lot.

Exxon Valdez - 260,000 to 750,000 barrels
 

iwannabeacowboy

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AC Diesel said:
12 spills in the first year 640 barrels total

I bet farmers in any county in Nebraska spill more than that on the ground each year just changing oil. Some was dumped over on my yard by accident, really greened it up. What is amazing about all those carbon based molecules, is that they break down.
 

Faster horses

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We had a major train spill near here in 2012. I guess I need to find out how much oil was spilled there, but it was a lot. Some of the cars tipped over, but some exploded. It was pretty exciting along with being dangerous. When it happened, you could see fireballs in the air from a long ways away. It took major cleanup too.

The firemen were warned not to get too close, so they could only help keep the fire from spreading from a certain distance.

If people who worried about pipelines understood that they don't explode, they develop slow leaks. The pipeline people don't want leaks any more than anyone else and they keep a good watch for leaks. Pipelines are much safer than RR for moving oil.
 
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