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Yahoo says Trumps claim about O's history is bogus

Faster horses

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A lot of research went into this little story, as you can tell at the end. :D
A kindergarten teacher remembers him???? :roll:
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Trump v. Obama: Flirting with a potential run for the Republican presidential nomination, Donald Trump has lately appeared to come out as a "birther," questioning whether President Obama was born in the United States. "The reason I have a little doubt, just a little, is because he grew up and nobody knew him," the New York developer and reality TV star said recently in an interview. "Nobody knows who he is until later in his life."

Really? Hawaii's governor, Neil Abercrombie, was a friend of Obama's parents, and says he remembers when Obama was born. Obama left Hawaii for several years when he was six, but two of his kindergarten teachers in Honolulu remember him, with one describing him as a "cute, likable, heavy-build child." As for later, here's a picture--one of many--of Obama with his high-school basketball team, released by the high school.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/barack-obama-punahou-school-1979-yearbook-photo

So this claim, too--that "nobody knew" Obama when he was growing up--gets the lowest rank on our gauge: "bogus
 

Tam

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Abercrombie never said he witnessed the birth of Obama he said he knew him as a child if I remember right

A few days later, Abercrombie clarified to Mark Niesse of the Associated Press that he didn’t exactly see Obama’s parents with their newborn son at the hospital, but that he “remembers seeing Obama as a child with his parents at social events.”

Big difference from actually witnessing the birth. :roll:

Hawaiian Health Director Quits 1 Wk. After Confirming There is no Obama Birth Certificate
Posted by admin on February 7, 2011 · Comments (19)

Auburn Journal

A week after the governor of Hawaii, Neil Abercrombie admitted that there is no proof that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii as claimed, the health director responsible for maintaining such records resigns under “mysterious circumstances”.

Of course, the mainstream media are not digging into it. They will mention it in passing, then move on to something more interesting, like the weather.

” HONOLULU – Interim Hawaii Health Director Dr. Neal Palafox abruptly quit Wednesday, the first of new Gov. Neil Abercrombie’s Cabinet appointees to leave.

The reason for Palafox’s resignation was a mystery, and he wouldn’t say whether he was asked to resign. ”


Hawaii Gov Can’t Find Obama Birth Certificate
Posted by admin on January 19, 2011 · Comments (37)

Jerome Corsi, WorldNetDaily



Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president’s chances of re-election in 2012.

Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie’s spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again today another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.

Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: “You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama’s birth certificate. How is that coming?”

In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have “political implications” for the next presidential election “that we simply cannot have.”

Why did the guy quit and why can't the gov. provide the Birth Certificate he claimed he could?
 

Steve

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with one describing him as a "cute, likable, heavy-build child."

I find it interesting that most if not all accounts of Barack as a baby and small child indicate he was a larger then normal child and baby..

one early account of him as a newborn said he was large like a 7 month old and way ahead for his age as a baby..

even when facts fit the time line they do not seem logical.. even when you take into account his mother's fabulous stories..


why would a mother present a 7 month old as newborn?
 

Steve

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So this claim, too--that "nobody knew" Obama when he was growing up--gets the lowest rank on our gauge: "bogus

so now we are up to three. . (and one has sorta recanted).. now says he definitely saw the Obama's at social events.. (before they were married)


in all of history have you ever known a famous person that only three people have claimed to have known?
 

Steve

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Barack Obama, Punahou School 1979 yearbook photo
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can someone point out which number is Barack?
 

hypocritexposer

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A few days later, Abercrombie clarified to Mark Niesse of the Associated Press that he didn’t exactly see Obama’s parents with their newborn son at the hospital, but that he “remembers seeing Obama as a child with his parents at social events.”

the address that was listed in the birth announcements, was Anne Dunham's parents' address. Obama Sr. lived at a different address that was listed in the School directory.

2-3 weeks after obama's birth he and his mother were in Seattle. the did not return to Hawaii until sometime between June 1962 and Jan. 1963.

Obama Sr. was in Boston in June 1962, to attend Harvard. He returned to Kenya after graduating in 1965.

Divorce in 1964, and by 1965 Stanley was married again to Soetoro.




when did Abercrombie see them out at social events? obama's parents were never together.
 

Steve

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Tam said:
My guess would be 21 but without a smoke hanging out of his mouth who knows :wink:

no twenty one is top row three from the left.. (unless there are two twenty ones on the same team?)
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
A few days later, Abercrombie clarified to Mark Niesse of the Associated Press that he didn’t exactly see Obama’s parents with their newborn son at the hospital, but that he “remembers seeing Obama as a child with his parents at social events.”

the address that was listed in the birth announcements, was Anne Dunham's parents' address. Obama Sr. lived at a different address that was listed in the School directory.

2-3 weeks after obama's birth he and his mother were in Seattle. the did not return to Hawaii until sometime between June 1962 and Jan. 1963.

Obama Sr. was in Boston in June 1962, to attend Harvard. He returned to Kenya after graduating in 1965.

Divorce in 1964, and by 1965 Stanley was married again to Soetoro.




when did Abercrombie see them out at social events? obama's parents were never together.

I ran in to that same problem when I did a detailed time line on Ms Dunham... most accounts of her in Hawaii are in the fall 60 semester and darn few after that.. (none in fact)

she dropped out of college after one semester.. (Fall Sept-Dec. 60)
Dates of attendance: Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)

missed the spring semester, and then there are no accounts of her in Hawaii after Feb 2, 1961 (the date she allegedly married Obama sr)..
 

Faster horses

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If you click on the link, there were two comments after the picture.
This is one of them:


He is # 21 and to his left 4th over is #21 also. These are jerseys not the tank tops what the game is played in so numbers can be the same sometimes.... I have been told....

what I SEE is that # 21 L and his 21 R is the same shirt.... the jesery under is very close also.... the right side is missing the edging on the sleeve....Bad Job!!!! Since he is not leaning that much... it should be shown if you measure them..

The zipper in neck area and the lines in the collar also the number is hidden a bit to fool us folks..... # it's been massaged a bit.....Do you see it also????

When will some one crack this joke being played daily on our heads???

Here is the other comment:

at 16:49 on August 18th, 2009

Considering the new revelations at Obama's myspace website about his age being 52 not 48 one has to wonder what else has been faked. http://www.myspace.com/barackobama
 

Steve

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Abercrombie put his foot in it when he told Sheryl Gay Stolberg, writer for The New York Times, that he remembered Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham bringing the baby to social events. The actual quote from the Times is: ""Mr. Abercrombie, 72, said that although he did not see the elder Obamas at the hospital with their newborn son, he did remember the couple bringing the baby to social events."

factual note: Barack Obama claims to have been born Aug , 1961, less then 14 days later his mother (with baby in tow) started attending classes at the University of Washington in Seattle.. (not accounting for travel time one day?) I wonder how much time it gave her..

1. lets see. day one born... mother still in hospital?
2-4 (day two, three and four) hospital still... (by today's standards three days is normal.. it was about a week back then) but I'll stick with three days,,
5. day five.. family time? I doubt she would go to a social event one day out of the hospital. but hey it is possible..
6. Social Events (with 6 day old baby in tow)
7. then we need packing day....
8. travel day..
9. find a hotel day,
10. find an apartment day,..
11. unpacking day,..

12. register for classes day,
13. get books day..
14. start classes day
note all this might seem slow, but she was alone and had a "newborn" child in tow)

(not counting spending a bit of time with your alleged husband saying goodbye) so that leaves 1 days that are free for social events.. and maybe 3 nights..

but lets see the rest of the story

That statement is demonstrably a lie. Stanley Ann Dunham left Hawaii days after Obama was born. It was impossible for Abercrombie to see "the couple bringing the baby to social events," because Obama Sr. was in Hawaii, and Stanley Ann Dunham was in Seattle, Washington, 2678 air miles away.

Anna and the infant Barry were in Washington state by August 1961, when she registered for classes at University of Washington using the Capitol Hill apartment address as her address.

"August of 1961: The same month that Obama Jrs birth certificate says he was born in Hawaii, the University of Washington shows his mom Stanley Ann Dunham attending classes in Seattle nearly 2680 miles away from Honolulu. She was enrolled in the UW and lived in an apartment on Capitol Hill. "

Susan Blake, a former Mercer Island city councilwoman, recalls that Dunham, who was calling herself Ann Obama at the time, visited her at her house in Mercer Island during the last week of August, 1961 (search Scribd on "Blake"). Blake said that Anna left Honolulu just as soon she had clearance from her doctor to travel with her new baby.

Hal Abercrombie, Neil's brother said he never saw them together. Drinking buddy, Pake Zane could not recall Ann from those days but had precise memories of Senior.

Years later, Abercrombie and another grad school friend looked up Obama Sr. during a trip through Africa. At that point, the senior Obama was a bitter man, according to Abercrombie, feeling that he had been denied due opportunities to influence the running of his country. "He was drinking too much; his frustration was apparent," Abercrombie said.

To Abercrombie's surprise, Senior never asked about Stanley Ann Dunham or Barry [Barack Obama]

so am I wrong or did super lady Dunham and party animal newborn Barack attend social events
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
Tam said:
My guess would be 21 but without a smoke hanging out of his mouth who knows :wink:

no twenty one is top row three from the left.. (unless there are two twenty ones on the same team?)

They switched numbers quite often?


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I really don't doubt that he might attended the school,.. but it is not proof he was born when and where he claims to have been born....
 

Steve

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Faster horses said:
If you click on the link, there were two comments after the picture.
This is one of them:


He is # 21 and to his left 4th over is #21 also. These are jerseys not the tank tops what the game is played in so numbers can be the same sometimes.... I have been told....

what I SEE is that # 21 L and his 21 R is the same shirt.... the jesery under is very close also.... the right side is missing the edging on the sleeve....Bad Job!!!! Since he is not leaning that much... it should be shown if you measure them..

The zipper in neck area and the lines in the collar also the number is hidden a bit to fool us folks..... # it's been massaged a bit.....Do you see it also????

When will some one crack this joke being played daily on our heads???

Here is the other comment:

at 16:49 on August 18th, 2009

Considering the new revelations at Obama's myspace website about his age being 52 not 48 one has to wonder what else has been faked. http://www.myspace.com/barackobama

I read that and would have to agree that his jersey and the sleeve does look photo shopped.

there was a picture from a club he was in and the guy next to him appears with the same shirt/jacket in another alleged year book photo.. but I didn't take the time to track them back down..

why such an effort to put out photos of him as a teen when the issue is of his birth?
 

Faster horses

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Hawaii senator wonders what Obama’s concealing
Posted on April 6, 2011 by Conservative Byte

The lone Republican in the Hawaii State Senate was interviewed on the radio this morning, explaining that while he believes Barack Obama was born in the Aloha State, he questions what might be on the original, long-form birth certificate that would prompt the president to go to such lengths to conceal it.

“I’m not a ‘birther,’” Hawaii State Sen. Sam Slom told Jeff Katz of WXKS Radio in Boston, “and I followed this from the very beginning. At first I followed it with amusement, and then I got really concerned about it, because the question was if it was not just the birth certificate, but other records as well – school records, academic records, work records – why would anyone spend millions of dollars in legal fees, particularly someone in public office, particularly someone in the highest public office, to not make that information public?”
 

Whitewing

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Faster horses said:
Hawaii senator wonders what Obama’s concealing
Posted on April 6, 2011 by Conservative Byte

The lone Republican in the Hawaii State Senate was interviewed on the radio this morning, explaining that while he believes Barack Obama was born in the Aloha State, he questions what might be on the original, long-form birth certificate that would prompt the president to go to such lengths to conceal it.

“I’m not a ‘birther,’” Hawaii State Sen. Sam Slom told Jeff Katz of WXKS Radio in Boston, “and I followed this from the very beginning. At first I followed it with amusement, and then I got really concerned about it, because the question was if it was not just the birth certificate, but other records as well – school records, academic records, work records – why would anyone spend millions of dollars in legal fees, particularly someone in public office, particularly someone in the highest public office, to not make that information public?”

Which is exactly what I've expressed as well.
 

Tam

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Faster horses said:
Hawaii senator wonders what Obama’s concealing
Posted on April 6, 2011 by Conservative Byte

The lone Republican in the Hawaii State Senate was interviewed on the radio this morning, explaining that while he believes Barack Obama was born in the Aloha State, he questions what might be on the original, long-form birth certificate that would prompt the president to go to such lengths to conceal it.

“I’m not a ‘birther,’” Hawaii State Sen. Sam Slom told Jeff Katz of WXKS Radio in Boston, “and I followed this from the very beginning. At first I followed it with amusement, and then I got really concerned about it, because the question was if it was not just the birth certificate, but other records as well – school records, academic records, work records – why would anyone spend millions of dollars in legal fees, particularly someone in public office, particularly someone in the highest public office, to not make that information public?

BINGO why would he spend millions verses showing his sealed records? :roll: To bad the libs are blind to big red flag flying over Obama's head. :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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MEREDITH VIEIRA: You have people now out there searching-- I mean, in Hawaii?

DONALD TRUMP: Absolutely. And they cannot believe what they're finding. And I'm serious--

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/donald-trump/2011/04/06/trump-i-have-investigators-hawaiithey-cannot-believe-what-theyre-finding#ixzz1IoKMdOGm
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
MEREDITH VIEIRA: You have people now out there searching-- I mean, in Hawaii?

DONALD TRUMP: Absolutely. And they cannot believe what they're finding. And I'm serious--

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/donald-trump/2011/04/06/trump-i-have-investigators-hawaiithey-cannot-believe-what-theyre-finding#ixzz1IoKMdOGm

I had hoped to see someone I could trust would rise up on this and take it seriously... so I would have a person I can give my research/timeline to.. but trump might do... :D
 

hypocritexposer

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Steve said:
hypocritexposer said:
MEREDITH VIEIRA: You have people now out there searching-- I mean, in Hawaii?

DONALD TRUMP: Absolutely. And they cannot believe what they're finding. And I'm serious--

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/donald-trump/2011/04/06/trump-i-have-investigators-hawaiithey-cannot-believe-what-theyre-finding#ixzz1IoKMdOGm

I had hoped to see someone I could trust would rise up on this and take it seriously... so I would have a person I can give my research/timeline to.. but trump might do... :D



You had better book some time with him soon. His calendar is filling fast.

They might not find a big enough bottle for the genie, this time.





Donald "The Donald" Trump is taking further steps to make himself the nation's birther-in-chief. On the heels of his promise to reveal the truth about Obama's birth in the next several weeks, TPM has learned Trump will be hosting an author of Arizona's birther legislation in New York City this week.

According to his office, State Rep. Carl Seel (R) is currently en route to New York City to powow with Trump over HB 2177, a bill which would require all candidates for office to prove their citizenship to the Secretary of State's office before they can appear of Arizona ballots.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/donald-trump-calls-az-birther-law-author-to-nyc.php
 
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