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Yale Prof: Egypt proves GWB was right!!

Faster horses

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Yale Professor: Egypt Proves George Bush Was Right
Wednesday, 02 Feb 2011 01:40 PM Article Font Size

The protests in Egypt are proving that former President George Bush was right in his push for democracy in the Arab world, a leading Yale professor and best-selling author wrote Wednesday.

Stephen Carter, a left-leaning author, wrote in The Daily Beast that now it’s up to Obama to build on Bush’s legacy.

“Not long ago, President George W. Bush was considered naive for suggesting that the promotion of democracy in the Arab world should be a staple of American foreign policy,” Carter writes. “Two years ago, the same charge was whispered against President Barack Obama, when he suggested, in his Cairo address to the Muslim world, that self-government and freedom “are not just American ideas, they are human rights.”

Both presidents, he points out, were subjected to lectures by so-called “experts” and career diplomats who claimed that democratic instincts were alien to the region.

That thinking seems to be headed to the dustbin of history with the regime of Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak.

Bush was “subjected to lectures from experts who insisted that somehow even to speak about democracy and freedom in the Arab lands was to show oneself to be a hopeless romantic, insufficiently hardheaded, out of touch with reality.”

“The much-maligned Bush Doctrine included a military component—fighting our foes on their soil rather than ours—that President Obama has fully adopted. It also included a moral component—the use of American influence to spread democracy and freedom—that was only rarely emphasized, perhaps because the Bush administration followed its own moral strategy only rarely.”

Stephen L. Carter is the William Nelson Cromwell Professor of Law at Yale, where he has taught since 1982. His latest book is "The Violence of Peace: America’s Wars in the Age of Obama."
 

hypocritexposer

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I disagree somewhat with this guy.

the war in Afghanistan was never started to promote democracy, but to punish and hunt down terrorists.

and I do not think that what is going on in Egypt is a democratic revolution. It is an economic revolution, if you can put it that way. It was started as a food riot and was highjacked by the Muslim Brotherhood, in an attempt to establish another Islamic state.

obama may have been in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood, with the hopes that it might develop into a democratic revolution, and if so, he is very naive.
 

Steve

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I think one of the main problems with democracy in the middle east is the "style" they advocate..

often it is the parliamentary style with an independent election of the president.

this style can be effective in a free nation... but also can be manipulated by forming unsavory coalitions, that often modify the countries constitution is not stopped by the military (example Turkey) but the end result is often, either a figurehead president or a dictator.

with a more republic style and the three separate branches such as we have it would be difficult of the factions to align and hopefully true freedom could grow.
 
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Anonymous

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bush murdered muslims for oil and military industrial complex profits. if you think this is good then he was right...the muslims hate our guts for doing it...
 

hypocritexposer

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shaumei said:
bush murdered muslims for oil and military industrial complex profits. if you think this is good then he was right...the muslims hate our guts for doing it...

The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program — a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium — reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/ns/world_news-mideast/n_africa/
 

Sandhusker

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shaumei said:
bush murdered muslims for oil and military industrial complex profits. if you think this is good then he was right...the muslims hate our guts for doing it...

Oil is over $90/bbl. #2 Diesel is $3.02, Gas is $3.26..... and Bush got oil?

There wasn't a whole lot of thought process before that comment, was there?
 

Whitewing

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Sandhusker said:
shaumei said:
bush murdered muslims for oil and military industrial complex profits. if you think this is good then he was right...the muslims hate our guts for doing it...

Oil is over $90/bbl. #2 Diesel is $3.02, Gas is $3.26..... and Bush got oil?

There wasn't a whole lot of thought process before that comment, was there?

He merely repeats what the mother ship sends down.
 
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Anonymous

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loomixguy said:
shaumei said:
bush murdered muslims for oil.


Then WHY am I paying $3.49/gallon for diesel fuel?

they can make the gas any price they want at anytime...

the muslims are the jews arch enemy. they want you to think the muslims hate everyone...we have attacked them and stolen their oil and murdered their families...of course they hate us....

Lindsey Williams will explain how and why the prices of oil go up and down. this is determined by the elite that own the companies. bilderburg members discuss this and it has been clearly called they are raising prices right now to $250/barrel potentially.
 

Whitewing

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shaumei said:
loomixguy said:
shaumei said:
bush murdered muslims for oil.


Then WHY am I paying $3.49/gallon for diesel fuel?

they can make the gas any price they want at anytime...

the muslims are the jews arch enemy. they want you to think the muslims hate everyone...we have attacked them and stolen their oil and murdered their families...of course they hate us....

Lindsey Williams will explain how and why the prices of oil go up and down. this is determined by the elite that own the companies. bilderburg members discuss this and it has been clearly called they are raising prices right now to $250/barrel potentially.

What are your views on Sasquatch?

Sasquatch_copy.jpg
 

jigs

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BigFoot is a direct cause of the high cost of oil...the Bildenburg group uses BigFoot as the scapegoat for high oil prices...
 
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