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Yes sir...we're winning alright!!!

kolanuraven

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Yepper....we're winning that war in Iraq!!!

9 more of our wonderful young soldiers died today, over 20 hurt to some degree in an ambush.

Young people who will never see Christmas again, their parents faces, maybe their kids at present and even future kids to come, never see morning sunrise again or a fresh batch of puppies or smell Mom's cooking again!!!

If this is WINNING...man I'm getting like ya'll now...I'd sure hate to see LOOSING!!
 

backhoeboogie

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Ancestors paid the price to give me the rights I enjoy in this great country. I am appreciative.

Ancestors fought in the Alamo. Ancestors fought at San Jacinto. And yes the Civil War. Both World Wars.

The world is a better place because of these valiant people. I have a better life.

To all those who served, thank you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for making the world a better place for me and my family.

It is with great pride that I let folks know family members are currently serving in this time of war. :D

It is sad that some feel we are losing and that these valiant people are fighting for nothing. :mad:

God bless those families who lost members. Ignore the political agenda of the liberals who wouldn't fight in the first place and have no appreciation.
 

kolanuraven

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Those in the past fought for the right reasons....these young people are dying due to one mans' ego and foolish pride!

BIG DIFFERENCE!!
 

passin thru

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Those in the past fought for the right reasons....these young people are dying due to one mans' ego and foolish pride!

And that is your opinion where as many have different opinion.
You aren't saying your opinion is always right are you?

Can you answer me how you are so gifted that you know what the right reasons are and what the wrong reasons are?

Another question I asked you before and didn't get an answer..........do you wish Saddam was back in power?
 

kolanuraven

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Saddam held the lid on, taking him down the way we did was the WORST way to go about it. It was like kicking a bees nest...we got swarmed and were totally unprepared.

So YES...things would be better if Saddam was never ousted.

Back in power now...I'm not sure even Saddam could fix this mess Dubya has created.

I hope I answered your question PT
 

P Joe

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kolanuraven said:
Saddam held the lid on, taking him down the way we did was the WORST way to go about it. It was like kicking a bees nest...we got swarmed and were totally unprepared.

So YES...things would be better if Saddam was never ousted.

ok............. and why were things soooo much better under Saddam???? A terrorist like minority held power. I guess the mass graves and tortured people were better off "taking it for the team" huh??
 

passin thru

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kola said:
So YES...things would be better if Saddam was never ousted
So you think those rape rooms were just an OK deal do you. What standards you have. In that case maybe you would like to let all the rapuists out of prison. Oh and those prisons for little kids, can't forget how great they were. Oh and those plastic chippers used on people, now those would be great, huh. Oh and we can't forget how nice it was of him to gas his enemies.


kola said:
So YES...things would be better if Saddam was never ousted


kola said:
So YES...things would be better if Saddam was never ousted


kola said:
So YES...things would be better if Saddam was never ousted
 

kolanuraven

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Well if we ( the US) is out to save the world from all the bad guys....why aren't we in Dafur?

Why aren't we running in and overthrowing Saudi Arabia, the home of the 9-11 highjackers ,NOT IRAQ!!

Somalia.....dead bodies are rotting in the streets there so why don't we go help Ethiopia as they are trying to help out Somalia's pitiful little goverment???


Putin's little country isn't a paradise either...why not deal with him the same way cause his buddy is Iran and he's selling weapons to Iran???


If you think Saddam was the only bad guy on the planet...you are blessed with blindness then. Why did we have to totally destroy Hiroshima and Nagasaki then? Killed thousands upon thousands of innocent people, old men, women babies and the impact went on for generations with various illness. Was that noble of us to that to all of them.....NO!!


There are easier & wiser ways to take out a mad dog!


So you think it's better for our young Americans to die so the Iraqi's won't have to defend themselves? Why do we have to take a bullet for them? Being a martyr sucks, they've proven that!
 

passin thru

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Many things led us to Iraq.................that is where we are today. Other trouble spots are a topic for another thread another day. After all you brought up Iraq and I will not accept your defending your love for Saddam by changing the subject by saying "well someplace else is worse"


kola said:
So YES...things would be better if Saddam was never ousted

So let me ask you again:

So you think those rape rooms were just an OK deal do you. What standards you have. In that case maybe you would like to let all the rapists out of prison. Oh and those prisons for little kids, can't forget how great they were. Oh and those plastic chippers used on people, now those would be great, huh. Oh and we can't forget how nice it was of him to gas his enemies.
 

passin thru

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So you think it's better for our young Americans to die so the Iraqi's won't have to defend themselves? Why do we have to take a bullet for them? Being a martyr sucks, they've proven that!
How dare you say that, I did not say that or anything like that.

I could have said that you gloat over each servicemans death and cherish each one in order to further your cause of running down Bush. I didn't
 

kolanuraven

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I didn't say that you said the sentences you just quoted.

I'm asking you those questions. So you think it's better for our young Americans to die so the Iraqi's won't have to defend themselves? Why do we have to take a bullet for them? Being a martyr sucks, they've proven that!

Do I think the torture, rape, etc was good, NO I do not. But I don't see why we need to continually stay since those things you mention are no longer a point. That part for Iraq is OVER. The rest is up to them. It's been over 4 yrs now, they need to get a grip!

We came in...took out the trash, we don't need to stay a swat flies for them.
 

passin thru

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NO, but you can not cut and run, or all would have been in vain. The Iraqi's need to step it up, the sooner the better. I am sure some of their problems are is they are afraid to proceed in case the US cuts......and they do not want left holding the bag. Not excusing them just stating where they are coming from. So a well defined message from us is imperitive.
 

kolanuraven

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We have been ' in country' for over 4 yrs....that is about as 'defined' as you can get!

That " cut and run" crap is just good PR terms, the average Joe Iraqi has never heard the term.
 

passin thru

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The Joe Iraqi has heard the liberal cut and run crowd and have to look daily to see if the US is there or packed it home Harry Reid style
 

kolanuraven

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If Joe Iraqi looked out one bright shiny day and saw that we were gone...then maybe he'd strap up his balls and defend his world himself.


PT, honey, we just might as well hush cause you're NOT gonna agree with me, nor I with you.
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
Yepper....we're winning that war in Iraq!!!

9 more of our wonderful young soldiers died today, over 20 hurt to some degree in an ambush.

Young people who will never see Christmas again, their parents faces, maybe their kids at present and even future kids to come, never see morning sunrise again or a fresh batch of puppies or smell Mom's cooking again!!!

If this is WINNING...man I'm getting like ya'll now...I'd sure hate to see LOOSING!!

If you want to see Loosing then watch some old movies about Vietnam and when they get to the part where they are flying the helicopters out of the embassy in saigon then you will not loosing looks like, it is very similiar to cutting and running. :wink:

Now if you want to see a movie about winning then rent "Saving Private Ryan" or maybe "Flags of our Fathers" and if you notice a lot more than 9 soldiers died as the took them beaches, but it was still a push towards winning the war.

So if you notice it is easy to know when you are loosing, you cut and run and to win you stay and fight even though some might die.

:roll: :roll:
 
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