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Northern Rancher

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This old doe looks like she's got a few tough days ahead of her-she looks pretty healthy and has a nice fawn at side-we'll probably waste a tag and take her once season opens-I can't see her making the winter.
 

RoperAB

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Thats tough because if you shot her now that fawn wouldnt make it :(
If she didnt have the fawn I would just shoot her now, season or no season.
 

Northern Rancher

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Well archery starts soon-we can kind of keep an eye on her and if she starts to suffer we'll tag her. Unfortunately SERM doesn't view acts of mercy as legal-not losing my hunting rights and guns over a deer-I guess Ty can bring out one of his buddies who are treaty to take care of it.
 

RoperAB

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Northern Rancher said:
Well archery starts soon-we can kind of keep an eye on her and if she starts to suffer we'll tag her. Unfortunately SERM doesn't view acts of mercy as legal-not losing my hunting rights and guns over a deer-I guess Ty can bring out one of his buddies who are treaty to take care of it.
I would just do it without asking but I know others who have called fish and game about wounded wildlife and they just told them to shoot it. Like if its close to town F&G will come out to help you hunt for it. But they wont make you tag it even if its during the season.
I cant see it being much different in SK. If its suffering its only humane to put it down. I would just contact them before you do it.
Like your not going to eat that animal and its not like it has horns. So the only reason to shoot it is to just put it out of its missery. Surely Fish & Game in SK wouldnt want to let it suffer?
 

the_jersey_lilly_2000

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Our vet has a series of pictures similar to this one, the deer had a huge abcess. It was on a "deer ranch" that he works for alot, they called, darted the deer, and he drained the abcess and gave it antibiotics, made it just fine after that.

The series of pictures is the deer how it looked standing before they darted her. Then the abcess up close. and then draining it. Kinda yucky, but it was interestin.
 

Northern Rancher

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Roper Ab don't ever make the mistake of assuming there is any common sense in the SERM dept. in Saskatchewan. Way too many cases of guys doing the right thing and ending up in a jackpot over it. Ty found a dead buck a few years back and we took it in to get a possession permit-well it was a nice deer so they were going to seize it. We had a little discussion and I told him he'd be seizing horn chips because I'd chop it up before I'd let them rip off my eight year old boy. Like I said I feel sorry for the deer but I'm not going to risk a bunch of crap helping her out. Her fawn is still spotted so the longer she hangs on the better it is for it.
 

RoperAB

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Northern Rancher said:
Roper Ab don't ever make the mistake of assuming there is any common sense in the SERM dept. in Saskatchewan. Way too many cases of guys doing the right thing and ending up in a jackpot over it. Ty found a dead buck a few years back and we took it in to get a possession permit-well it was a nice deer so they were going to seize it. We had a little discussion and I told him he'd be seizing horn chips because I'd chop it up before I'd let them rip off my eight year old boy. Like I said I feel sorry for the deer but I'm not going to risk a bunch of crap helping her out. Her fawn is still spotted so the longer she hangs on the better it is for it.

The fawn complicates it because even if you wait until bow season if you shot the mother I doubt if the fawn will survive. It might survive.
The longer its with its mother the better though.
You see I dont think they could dart the mother and give it antibiotics either because that fawn is still nurseing. Well maybe they could? Im not sure?
I do know that I have seen whitetails nurseing even in the second week of November!
 

Northern Rancher

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Well to start with she's a wild deer-not exactly easy to medicate-mother nature is a pretty cruel taskmaster at times-that pic wasn't taken on my property even-it would get pretty sticky wandering aroun d on the neighbors with a rifle out of season. We'll keep an eye out for her and see how she's doing-Ty has a trail cam set up about 50 yards from where that pic was taken-two monster bucks are roaming around there-he wants to stick an arrow in lol.
 

milkmaid

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If you end up taking her during hunting season... would you snap a picture of that close up? I'd be really curious to see a closer picture. :)
 

RoperAB

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the_jersey_lilly_2000 said:
why wouldn't they be able to give antibiotics to the mother, and the fawn keep nursing? It happens with cows all the time.

Im thinking there would be a good chance that the mother and fawn would not get hooked up together afterwards.
Example if you hunt the mother down, drug her,etc. Its probable going to be tramatic and the fawn probable wont just stand around waiting for you to work at its mother. Im thinking there is going to be some running involved?
But then I have never "doctored" wild deer so I dont know. I also wonder if one shot of long lasting pennicillian would do any good?
 

the_jersey_lilly_2000

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Well, if that's not an abcess, and for some reason ended up bein somethin genetic. I don't think I'd want that fawn runnin round to grow up and take a chance on eatin it later down the road either. Might be best to do away with both of em now in my opinion.
If it's infection, what kinda milk is that fawn gettin? Yuck. No way would I want that fawn to grow to an age where some one hunting and not knowing what it's been thru would kill it, process it, and feed it to his family.
 

kolanuraven

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I've worked on/with wild white tails here and 98% of the time it's pure trauma.

Once we had a tornado and somehow a fawn had gotten it's hoof cut on a piece of roof tin, we guessed, and it was infected horribly. Well...Momma Deer had placed the baby in the back of our hay barn. So my father goes in the barn and all hades breaks loose as he's scared them. We find the fawn...with Momma standing about 5 feet away. I think she wanted us to help. She never snorted , no threat moves....just watched.

So we bundled up the baby, off to the vet we go. I've got a ' cool' vet and it was after hours and we ended up having to amputate the fawns leg. We named her Ilean ( I lean cause I got only 3 legs!!) and taught her to stand using one of those bouncy baby slings you put in a door way! She lived in the basement in a refrig box and did pretty good. But other damages had taken their toll along with the infection as she was pretty beat up.

If the fawn of that doe is in good shape itself and you can run it down...you might can bottle feed it for a bit till it's able to get out. I've still got one that hangs around that was raised here....he loves bananas and vanilla wafers to this day!! We named him John Doe!
 

Northern Rancher

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I think that old doe needs about 100 grains of Montec G5 pain reliever-I don't use hardly any antibuiotocs on my cattle not about to run around trying to 'fix' a wild deer. I'm pretty sure it's a rupture anyway.
 

RoperAB

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the_jersey_lilly_2000 said:
Well, if that's not an abcess, and for some reason ended up bein somethin genetic. I don't think I'd want that fawn runnin round to grow up and take a chance on eatin it later down the road either. Might be best to do away with both of em now in my opinion.
If it's infection, what kinda milk is that fawn gettin? Yuck. No way would I want that fawn to grow to an age where some one hunting and not knowing what it's been thru would kill it, process it, and feed it to his family.

Mother Nature weeds out the bad genes but Mother Nature is a cruel bitch.

Kolanuraven
Down at the other place I used to live the Mule Deer are so tame you have to shut barn doors or they will go inside.
In the spring when your feeding they will come running when they hear the truck. Nothing to have 50 of them standing there to get fead with the cattle.
If there is left over feed in the back of your truck they will jump right in the truck to eat. Thats if the truck is parked in the yard and your not in it.
They used to come right up on my deck and stare in the windows at you.
If I wanted to be intimate with my wife I used to have to draw the curtains because I felt wierd about the deer watching :lol:
White Tails around here are skitish though. Well except for three bucks that have been hanging around my house this summer.
 
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