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"You want to know what most Americans think is extreme?

hypocritexposer

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Here is video of GOP Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell reacting to Christianne Amanpour’s blatantly biased question today with which she painted GOP Senate candidates Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell as “bizarre” and “fringe.”

McConnell gave a perfect answer. He said to Amanpour:


“You want to know what most Americans think is extreme? . . . . What most Americans think is extreme is the kind of Government we’ve been running for the last year and a half . . . “

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMAaWALoWrg&feature=player_embedded
 

Tam

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raaaPxmxKVw

Here is another good video that shows the Dems in the light they should be shown in. Since Oldtimer doesn't watch youtubes I'll explian it for him.

First Obama is amused by the Tea Parties and slams them at a $30,000 a plate dinner :shock: at a elite Dem. fund raiser. One has to wonder what happen to all his talk about he speaks for all those people that gave $5 and $10 to his campaign fund? :? AND wonder if he is still AMUSED or will be amused after the Nov. Election? :wink: :roll:

Second, Like Terry ( the Republican), I doubt anyone has ever heard a President of the US speak about the people he to be representing in the distasteful belittleing way Obama does. So much for his promise to unite the voters and speak for All citizens in the UNITED STATES :roll:

Then Notice the first words out of the Peter's ( the Democrats) month? a belittleing comment towards Terry, how Democrat of him, he took that right out of Obama's play book. :wink: :roll: I'm glad to see Terry stayed above the crap Peter was tossing his way. :clap:
Peter continued on by slamming the Tea Party, and questions the Tea Party ability to do more than protest. :lol:
Then in full Dem. style he starts in on the White House Provided talking points by commenting on all the good things Obama has done and how the challenge for the Dems will be to get out there and sell the American People on them. Sell what, how Obama stuffed Health care down the throats of a majority of Americans that DID NOT WANT IT. :roll:

When Terry points out the bad parts like premiums going up, Peter jumps in and says Terry can't just that he needs to back it up. :roll: Gee people are getting letters telling them because of Obamacare they premiums are going up as much as 25% so I guess Terry was RIGHT after all. :wink:

When Peter can't defend his points he goes back to slamming Terry.

When Terry asks Peter if Americans should have to Thank Obama for the little they get for all the taxes they send to DC, even Peter admitted they shouldn't have to. BUT BUT OBAMA SAID "THEY SHOULD BE THANKING ME".
Peter wants to look at the FACTS so let's do that.
Fact : the Dems are EXHAUSTED of defending Obama they even told him so at his "invite only" townhall meeting.
Fact: Obamacare was such a great success that not one Dem. is Campaigning on it's passage.
Fact: Obama did such a great job on the economy, Dem. candidates have dropped the D from behind their names and are running away from the party affiliation as fast as they can.
Knowing the real facts, what is/will Voter turn out in the Dems side look like this fall? :wink:

Democratic Primary Turnout Lowest in 80 Years, Study Shows
Posted by Stephanie Condon

More Republicans voted in this year's statewide primary elections than Democrats, according to a new study, marking the first time GOP turnout has exceeded Democratic turnout in midterm primaries since 1930.


Republican turnout exceeded Democratic turnout in the primaries held through August 28 by more than four million votes, according to Curtis Gans, director of American University's Center for the Study of the American Electorate. While the average percentage of eligible citizens who voted in the GOP statewide primaries was the highest since 1970, the average percentage of eligible citizens who voted in Democratic primaries reached an 80-year low.

Gans cited voter dissatisfaction over the economy, as well as the intense primary battles within the Republican Party -- in part fueled by Tea Party challengers -- for the increase in Republican turnout.


Now onto the facts of the Tea Party.
Fact: The Tea Party that Obama and the Dem Party like to slam continuely to their elite supporters are NOT just protesting, they are running candidates in the primaries against establishment Republicans, setting record voter turnout levels and WINNING. And what is their campaign based on repeal Obamacare, rein in government spenting and cut taxes so the economy can recover from the Democrat policies of SPENT SPENT SPENT , TAX TAX TAX and punish anyone that dares to work hard to better their own life and not rely on government entitlement programs to pay their bills.

So mark it on the wall I agree with Obama the Tea Party is Amusing. :lol: :lol: :lol:
It is Amusing to see the effect they are having on the Liberal elite of the Democrat Party
It is amusing to watch the liberals try discredit Tea Party Candidates and FAIL
it is amusing to see the voter turnout due to pizzed out Tea Party members.

AND
It is REAL AMUSING to see Queen of the Tea Party Sarah Palin poll higher than Obama when voters are asked who is closer to their own beliefs on issues. Sarah 52% Obama 40% :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Tam

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Angusgord said:
:D :D 2 Canadiens B'ching about Obama and the U.S.....

I guess you forgot I'm an AMERICAN living in Canada and legally able to vote in the US elections. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

hopalong

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Angusgord said:
:D :D 2 Canadiens B'ching about Obama and the U.S.....

And we still do not know that you are a citizen of the US. pert near isn't good enough!!
Even your other ID does not give a location as to where you live! :wink:
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Angusgord said:
hopalong said:
Angusgord said:
:D :D 2 Canadiens B'ching about Obama and the U.S.....

And we still do not know that you are a citizen of the US. pert near isn't good enough!!
Even your other ID does not give a location as to where you live! :wink:
Are you in love with me? Sorry buddy ,I'm straight!!

ok if you claim !! you make lots of claims not all them true :wink: :wink: :wink:

Being in a good mood today I am going to give you the last word, so have at it :D :D
 

Tam

Well-known member
Angusgord said:
Tam said:
Angusgord said:
:D :D 2 Canadiens B'ching about Obama and the U.S.....

I guess you forgot I'm an AMERICAN living in Canada and legally able to vote in the US elections. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
But ONLY if your a Democrat!! Isn't that what your neo-con buddy's claim only democrat's cross borders to illegally vote!!


Does NOTHING happen in Canada??

Democrats cross borders to ILLEGALLY vote in a election they shouldn't be voting in as they are not US citizens. American CITIZENS living in Canada who happen to be Republicans cross borders to LEGALLY VOTE in US election and because of attitudes like yours I think I will take my 3 Legal American citizen children with me when I go to cast my REPUBLICAN/TEA PARTY VOTE. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Lonecowboy

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Tam wrote:


Fact: The Tea Party that Obama and the Dem Party like to slam continuely to their elite supporters

when they slam the TEA party they are slammin American principles and our Constitution - and they wonder why they are falling in the polls :???:
 

Tam

Well-known member
Angusgord said:
Tam said:
Angusgord said:
But ONLY if your a Democrat!! Isn't that what your neo-con buddy's claim only democrat's cross borders to illegally vote!!


Does NOTHING happen in Canada??

Democrats cross borders to ILLEGALLY vote in a election they shouldn't be voting in as they are not US citizens. American CITIZENS living in Canada who happen to be Republicans cross borders to LEGALLY VOTE in US election and because of attitudes like yours I think I will take my 3 Legal American citizen children with me when I go to cast my REPUBLICAN/TEA PARTY VOTE. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:D :D And I'm sure you'll tell them how they HAVE to vote!!! :D

They are not like Dems Angusgord they work hard for their money and feel they and everyone else have a right to keep it. :wink: Besides They are all intelligent adults that have minds of their own and I trust they can come to the correct conclusion all on their own. :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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With all your yipping and yapping-- its still comical that last election it was the Montana Republican Party that filed suit days before the election that would have required all the Clerk and Recorders to send out proof of residence for a second time---- but in checking- the most were servicemen/women onactive duty- and in doing so with their short time period denied all the Montana National Guardsmen and Montana resident servicemen/women serving overseas the right to vote :shock: :roll: :( :(

The Judge was set to throw the whole thing out as another political game farce-- when the Republican leadership (after catching total hell for the stupidity of not allowing folks fighting for their country to vote :roll: ) dropped the issue....

Almost as bad as the farce they tried last year of not letting anyone vote for the Presidential primary candidate unless you were an elected official or a high Mullah in the Repub Party...Turned off a lot of former Repub voters... :(

Australia has a law where every citizen of voting age has to vote- maybe that would take care of the problem with who should or should not vote...
 

per

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That is interesting OT. The way I interpret how you interpret the Aussie law, it would give Tam, (an American Citizen) the right and responsibility to vote. Thus cancelling yours out. :shock:
 
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Anonymous

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per said:
That is interesting OT. The way I interpret how you interpret the Aussie law, it would give Tam, (an American Citizen) the right and responsibility to vote. Thus cancelling yours out. :shock:
If she fell under the US/state citizenship/residency requirements-- she would be required to vote.... My understanding is that she no longer lists her US residence as her home residence....Montana law doesn't allow you to have two residences--but do allow as long as you are inactive duty with the military you can keep your state residence- and residency and things like your D/L and hunting rights don't expire until 6 months after you leaveactive duty, no matter where you live...

But if Tam could vote after giving up and leaving her country- that would really be sad- as a couple of my Canadian friends- that are married to American cowboys- and have kids that are American citizens- but that haven't renounced their Canadian citizenship and became US citizens yet (mainly because they want the access to the Canadian health care benefits) are twice the citzens Tam is- but don't have the right to vote.... :(
 

per

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I was just interpreting the way you gave us the Aussie law. Every citizen has to vote. Now you are going back to the laws the US has on the books. You can't wish for one and then say it can't work because you have something else. I have a relative that did give up here Canadian Citizenship so she could vote in the US. I don't think any more or less of her than anyone else. You needn't be so nasty to Tam because she married a Canadian and lives a mile on the wrong side of you and it sure doesn't mean that she isn't invested in what goes on south of the 49th.
 

Yanuck

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again....you DO NOT have to renounce your Canadian citizenship to become an American citizen or vice versa! and as far as I know, you have to live in Canada to have access to Canadian Health care?
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Well at least the ladies down here know which country they are a citizen of- and are proud enough to say which country they are citizens of...
And they do get healthcare thru Canada...

Yanuck- Tam- which country are you citizens of? Which country bears your loyalties if push comes to shove? Or do you pick and choose from day to day as it suits you best... :???:

In order for my Norwegian born citizen brother in law to become a US citizenship-he had renounce all Norwegian citizenship and all loyalties to any foreign countries... Seems right to me.....
 

Yanuck

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Well at least the ladies down here know which country they are a citizen of- and are proud enough to say which country they are citizens of...
And they do get healthcare thru Canada...

Yanuck- Tam- which country are you citizens of? Which country bears your loyalties if push comes to shove? Or do you pick and choose from day to day as it suits you best... :???:

In order for my Norwegian born citizen brother in law to become a US citizenship-he had renounce all Norwegian citizenship and all loyalties to any foreign countries... Seems right to me.....

and that is Norway's law, not the US's... I'm a proud citizen of both countries, I'd sure like to know how they can get healthcare thru Canada when they don't live there...do they pay taxes? hhmmmmmm...sure doesn't seem like they would be able to get it SK or AB..... :roll:

All permanent residents of Alberta must apply for AHCIP coverage
for themselves and their dependants. A resident of Alberta is a
person who is:
legally entitled to be or to remain in Canada and makes his/
her permanent home in Alberta;
committed to being physically present in Alberta for at least
183 days in a 12 month period;
not claiming residency or obtaining benefits under a claim of
residency in another province, territory or country; and
any other person deemed by the regulations to be a resident.
A tourist, transient or visitor to Alberta is not a resident.

http://easweb.eas.ualberta.ca/download/file/grad/Alberta_Health_Care_Application.pdf


Temporarily Away From Saskatchewan
If You Are Temporarily Away From Saskatchewan
Under certain circumstances, you may retain limited coverage while away for up to one year provided you intend to return here to live.

In all situations where you will be temporarily absent from the province for more than three months, you must advise Saskatchewan Health Registration of:

the date you intend to leave Saskatchewan
the reason for your absence
your intended return date
Following any extended absence from the province, you need to contact Saskatchewan Health to ensure that your card is still active and you are entitled to benefits.

If you obtain a work contract outside Canada for no longer than 24 months, you may be eligible for limited out-of-Canada benefits for the period of your work contract. To retain coverage Saskatchewan Health needs your departure date, the date you expect to return to Saskatchewan and a copy of your work contract.


http://www.health.gov.sk.ca/away-from-saskatchewan
 

Big Muddy rancher

Well-known member
Yanuck said:
Oldtimer said:
Well at least the ladies down here know which country they are a citizen of- and are proud enough to say which country they are citizens of...
And they do get healthcare thru Canada...

Yanuck- Tam- which country are you citizens of? Which country bears your loyalties if push comes to shove? Or do you pick and choose from day to day as it suits you best... :???:

In order for my Norwegian born citizen brother in law to become a US citizenship-he had renounce all Norwegian citizenship and all loyalties to any foreign countries... Seems right to me.....

and that is Norway's law, not the US's... I'm a proud citizen of both countries, I'd sure like to know how they can get healthcare thru Canada when they don't live there...do they pay taxes? hhmmmmmm...sure doesn't seem like they would be able to get it SK or AB..... :roll:

All permanent residents of Alberta must apply for AHCIP coverage
for themselves and their dependants. A resident of Alberta is a
person who is:
�� legally entitled to be or to remain in Canada and makes his/
her permanent home in Alberta;
�� committed to being physically present in Alberta for at least
183 days in a 12 month period;
�� not claiming residency or obtaining benefits under a claim of
residency in another province, territory or country; and
�� any other person deemed by the regulations to be a resident.
A tourist, transient or visitor to Alberta is not a resident.

http://easweb.eas.ualberta.ca/download/file/grad/Alberta_Health_Care_Application.pdf


Temporarily Away From Saskatchewan
If You Are Temporarily Away From Saskatchewan
Under certain circumstances, you may retain limited coverage while away for up to one year provided you intend to return here to live.

In all situations where you will be temporarily absent from the province for more than three months, you must advise Saskatchewan Health Registration of:

the date you intend to leave Saskatchewan
the reason for your absence
your intended return date
Following any extended absence from the province, you need to contact Saskatchewan Health to ensure that your card is still active and you are entitled to benefits.

If you obtain a work contract outside Canada for no longer than 24 months, you may be eligible for limited out-of-Canada benefits for the period of your work contract. To retain coverage Saskatchewan Health needs your departure date, the date you expect to return to Saskatchewan and a copy of your work contract.


http://www.health.gov.sk.ca/away-from-saskatchewan

Just proves Oldtimers upstanding citizens are crooks. Claiming Canadian health care they are not eligible for. And he just looks the other way. :roll:
What a lawman. :drink: :oops:
 

Tam

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
But if Tam could vote after giving up and leaving her country-:(
MONTANA RULES
https://www.raiseyourvote.com/content/MT/en

If you’re an American citizen living abroad or in the uniformed services, you can vote in the state where you last lived. If you’ve never lived in the United States, you may be able to vote using the address where your American parent(s) last lived. Register to vote from abroad.

No current American resident needed to vote in Oldtimer and MY Home State of Montana, according to Montana election office.

Now was I forced to give up my American citizenship and all my US rights when I married my best friend and moved north?

http://www.richw.org/dualcit/faq.html

Doesn't the US Constitution forbid dual citizenship?
No. The Constitution says nothing explicitly about dual citizenship at all. Indeed, in its 1967 ruling in Afroyim v. Rusk, the Supreme Court used an argument derived from the 14th Amendment to the Constitution to affirm a right to dual citizenship.

I am a dual US/Canadian citizen by birth. I was once told that if I ever voted in either an American or a Canadian election, I would lose citizenship in the other country. Is this true?
Absolutely not true. Neither US nor Canadian citizenship law says anything about losing citizenship as a result of voting in an election in another country.

Note that US law used to mandate loss of US citizenship for voting in a foreign election. However, this provision was struck down by the Supreme Court in Afroyim v. Rusk and was repealed by Congress in 1978.

The Constitution of the United States of American affirms my right to dual citizenship and voting in Canada as a citizen does NOT cause me to lost my US citizenship or the rights afforded to me by my Citizenship.

SUCKS to be you Oldtimer :p :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Looks like oldtimer has been busted again, either lieing or advocating breaking the law, or just plain doesn't know what the he!! he is talking anout.

EH?
 
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