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"You're On Your Own"

Steve

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the fact remains.. liberals want you to depend on the police... and when confronted with response time they give bad advice..

if you shoot a shotgun as biden advises.. in most cases you will be breaking the law.. and is bad dangerous advise.

most criminals can disarm a homeowner with a bat, a knife or other close contact weapon... a dog attacking a person can get you in deep trouble as well..

in some cases when confronted with the fact that you are armed a criminal will retreat.

or worse,.. become more aggressive.

only in a situation where you fear your life is in imminent danger, and you can not retreat can you defend your self.

and even then you risk prosecution..

to prevent prosecution..

make sure you actually fear fro your life..

does he have a weapon.. is he larger then you?

have you warmed him?

if he retreats shooting him is against the law..



have you called 9-11?

is a double edged sword.. calling gets the police on their way.. but also indicates you have time and other options...



what ever you do... shoot the intruder when he is facing you. after he has entered the house.. and you have no escape... and no other options.

and then call a lawyer.

because you are on your own... and the police may have locked the scum up a dozen times.. but are now investigating a homicide and you are the criminal.. and now that your home is a crime scene they can now search and seize any "evidence"
 

Steve

Well-known member
Hudson County, New Jersey --(Ammoland.com) At approximately 10pm on Thursday night, January 24, 2013, 33-year-old Keith Pantaleon of Jersey City, New Jersey, was in the bedroom of his apartment watching television after a full day’s work – when he heard thumping noises coming from his living room.

Believing that his residence may be being broken into, he grabbed his soft-bound Day Planner case (which also held a lawfully purchased handgun), and cracked open his bedroom door to investigate.

In the center of his living room, he saw a man dressed entirely in dark clothing who had his back towards him. He cracked open his door slightly further and saw near the entrance to his apartment a police officer, his landlord, and an EMT worker.

When the man dressed in dark clothing in the middle of his living room turned around, he saw it was another police officer.

One of the officers immediately ordered Pantaleon to come out of his bedroom. Pantaleon tossed his unopened Day Planner case onto his bed. As he went to close his bedroom door behind him, one of the officers pushed him into his living room. The officer then ordered Pantaleon to face a corner of his living room and handcuffed him. One of the officers allegedly threatened Pantaleon that if he had pulled out a firearm, he would have shot him. Officers asked if Pantaleon owned any firearms. To which, he did not reply.

As one of the officers watched Pantaleon (who remained in custody in Pantaleon’s living room), the other officer warrantlessly searched Pantaleon’s bedroom – which including opening cabinets and his Day Planner case – then demanded that Pantaleon provide the PIN# combination to his safe, which the officer proceeded to open and search.

After finding the handgun in Pantaleon’s Day Planner, the officer asked him if he possessed any more firearms. To which, Pantaleon indicated that he had a rifle on a top shelf in a box.

Officers claim that they announced their presence, yet at no time did Pantaleon hear officers announce their presence in his home. At no time during the home invasion was Pantaleon read his Miranda rights. At no time did Pantaleon grant permission for anyone to enter his apartment without his permission, no less police officers without a warrant.

On the night in question, Pantaleon’s upstairs neighbor allegedly complained to police about the landlord providing insufficient heat. The boiler for the apartment building is adjacent to the kitchen area of Pantaleon’s residence. Police apparently insisted that the landlord open Pantaleon’s residence on their behalf despite the extremely late hour and lack of consent by Pantaleon.

Officers then took Pantaleon to police headquarters, where, after further questioning, he was charged with unlawful possession of: two handguns, a rifle, an “assault rifle,” a large capacity magazine, and certain ammunition.

In New Jersey, permits to purchase firearms are not required for possession of firearms within one’s home. Possession of firearms within one’s residence is exempted under N.J.S. 2C:39-6e, as well as protected under the U.S. Supreme Court’s rulings on the Second Amendment in D.C. v. Heller and Chicago v. McDonald, and the ruling in the recently decided New Jersey Appellate Division matter, IMO of the Application for a New Jersey Permit to Carry a Handgun by Richard Pantano, A-1682-11T1 (February 22, 2013).

Pursuant to statute at issue, the ammunition in question is legal to possess since New Jersey’s ammunition prohibition only applies to handgun ammunition and the ammunition at issue is specifically designed for use in a rifle. The rifle at issue was allegedly an AR-15, one of the most commonly possessed type of rifle in America.

Pantaleon lawfully purchased his firearms as a prior resident of Pennsylvania. He also possesses permits to carry firearms from Nevada and Florida. Pantaleon has no prior criminal convictions and no mental health history. He is not accused of misusing or threatening to use any firearms. No unlawful purpose for said possessions has been alleged.

Despite the above, his bail was set at $75,000.00 cash or bond, which the 33-year-old did not have.

Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/03/possession-of-firearms-in-home-begets-new-jersey-man-30-days-in-jail/#ixzz2N4JtKHol

Jersey City Police publicly smeared Pantaleon’s reputation with comparisons to Adam Lanza and by publication of a warning letter to local schools. See NJ.com Article .

Pantaleon was an IT Specialist for a highly respectable bank, a position he proudly garnered last year, and was recently noted for promotion.

Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/03/possession-of-firearms-in-home-begets-new-jersey-man-30-days-in-jail/#ixzz2N4K2TdRS

http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index.ssf/2013/01/jersey_city_police_say_man_had.html

When Keith heard them enter, he grabbed is pistol in a zipped gun case and headed to the door. Seeing the police, he pitched the case back onto his bed.

Without provocation, the police demanded to know what he had in his hand and was led back into the bedroom, where the police identified the gun case, confiscated it and searched his apartment for other weapons, confiscating them all and charging him with possession of illegal firearms and magazines.

just another liberal police state gone amuck...
 
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