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Zimmerman trial: Why not toss in J-walking?

Whitewing

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Didn't he cut across someone's yard on the way back to his truck? :roll:

Defense attorney West said it best re letting the jury consider other charges like 3rd degree murder because Zimmerman committed "child abuse" by killing the 17 year old baby Trayvon.

"Just when I didn't think this case could get any more bizarre, the state is alleging child abuse?" West said. "This is outrageous. It's outrageous the state would seek to do this at this time."

WTF is going on here? Is the state of Florida trying to outdo the federal government by doing such stupid and outlandish things? If found not guilty is there any way Zimmerman could sue the gd state of Florida for ruining his life?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEIGHBORHOOD_WATCH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-07-11-10-13-00
 

Mike

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The more we get into this, the more we find that the Buckwheat Admin. (DOJ) is involved.

The jury is going to be confused for sure now................

The State originally brought charges of "Murder 2" and should have to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt alone. If not, Zim should be exonerated.

But to be charged with a "Child Abuse" Statute after the Defense did not know to defend against it could be a travesty.

Wonder if DOJ will bring "Hate" Crime charges after this trial?

:roll:
 

Faster horses

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Is this justice? He's being railroaded. These are despicable actions on the part of the court/judge. I really feel for Zimmerman. They are out to get him, for sure. Sad. More than sad. Wish something could be done.
 

jigs

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look at it from the view of Comrade Obama.... by throwing in all this other crap. confusing a jury, they then set Zimmerman free....this is a guarantee to spark a race riot.... this allows them to use the excuse of "public safety" to bring in the troops, declare martial law, and begin the slow noose tightening on American freedom....
 

Mike

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"Child Abuse" was thrown out by the Judge.

1 of 2 charges could be applicable now:

1-Murder 2

2-Manslaughter (which actually could possibly be more jail time for defendant)
 

Faster horses

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jigs said:
look at it from the view of Comrade Obama.... by throwing in all this other crap. confusing a jury, they then set Zimmerman free....this is a guarantee to spark a race riot.... this allows them to use the excuse of "public safety" to bring in the troops, declare martial law, and begin the slow noose tightening on American freedom....

WOW!! :? :x :(
 

Whitewing

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jigs said:
look at it from the view of Comrade Obama.... by throwing in all this other crap. confusing a jury, they then set Zimmerman free....this is a guarantee to spark a race riot.... this allows them to use the excuse of "public safety" to bring in the troops, declare martial law, and begin the slow noose tightening on American freedom....

Trust me, the slow noose tightening on American freedom has been long underway.

As for Zimmerman, I guess if he walks, there's always the drone option. Lord knows if he could fry an American citizen without a day a court he could justify frying one because a jury made the wrong decision.

And yes Mike, the DOJ is involved and has been involved from the beginning it would appear. Haven't seen anyone post the story of DOJ spending money (tax dollars) to stir up shyte between the races, but the story's out there. Won't surprise me if it's true.

The country is going down the toilet fast.
 

Steve

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Mike

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“Welcome to Trayvongate, where the President of the United States used both the bully pulpit, the Department of Justice and sly media manipulation to gin up charges of racism in the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin shooting. Now that the trial is almost finished and the only act of racism mentioned so far came from the victim–Martin called Zimmerman ‘a creepy ass cracker’ according to testimony–the cynical and repeated use of the race card by the White house is even more abhorrent.”
 

Traveler

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Am thinking that this isn't going to create any love-fest between blacks and Latinos. Could it even drive some Latinos away from the Communist party?
 

Tam

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Don't you just love how the Prosecutor claimed the events of the night started months before when the neighborhood had seen a up swing in breakins and Zimmerman was upset about the perps always getting away so he profiled Trayvon to be a criminal and followed him so he would not get away.

But yet nobody was to pay any attention to or even hear about the past few months of Trayvon's life that might have set his reactions of the event in place. Those of his drug use, and the stories of why he was suspended from School which includes him having burglary tools and jewelry that was NOT HIS. Nope nobody is to know about Trayvon's past. They are to just keep looking at the baby faced OLD picture that his mother released to the media to garner sympathy for her. SO much for letting the events of Trayvon circling back and attacking Zimmerman that night be what is to be judged.

The Prosecutor also asked the jury why would Zimmerman get out of his car if he feared Trayvon and then added he did it as he had the equalizer as in his gun with him. I might then ask if Trayvon was, according to his girlfriend's testimony almost back to his dad's apartment, then why did he turn around and go back to where Zimmerman was and attack him if he was scared of the guy following him?

Could it be Trayvon was looking for trouble that night to make a name for himself as a BADAZZ Big Black Boy and he found it. He most likely felt he would be able to beat the crap out of Zimmerman and was not expecting him to have a gun. :roll:

The Prosecutor's claims of Trayvon being dead due to no actions of his own is an out and out lie if Trayvon jumped Zimmerman and broke his nose and was beating his head into concrete. :roll:
 

Tam

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ranch hand said:
The new black panthers are busing blacks in to riot if it doesn't go their way. :mad:

And you can bet Obama and Holder will not do anything to stop them or charge them with inciting a riot. I'm betting they will support it so they can use it to their benefit. Remember this Administration never misses a chance to exploit a crisis :mad:
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Tam said:
ranch hand said:
The new black panthers are busing blacks in to riot if it doesn't go their way. :mad:

And you can bet Obama and Holder will not do anything to stop them or charge them with inciting a riot. I'm betting they will support it so they can use it to their benefit. Remember his Administration never misses a chance to exploit a crisis :mad:


Or create one where one does not exist.
 

Tam

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iwannabeacowboy said:
Tam said:
ranch hand said:
The new black panthers are busing blacks in to riot if it doesn't go their way. :mad:

And you can bet Obama and Holder will not do anything to stop them or charge them with inciting a riot. I'm betting they will support it so they can use it to their benefit. Remember his Administration never misses a chance to exploit a crisis :mad:


Or create one where one does not exist.

Then lie about their involvement when all h*ll breaks loose. This Administration can not be trusted to tell the truth about ANYTHING and they never will tell the truth as their koolaid drinking supporters will not hold them accountable for anything. The fact Obama got re-elected after BOLD FACE LYING about what happen in Benghazi and Fast and Furious proves they will overlook anything this CORRUPT Administration does. :mad:
 

Tam

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Greta pointed out tonight the Prosecutor mislead the jury in his closing remarks today by lying about what Zimmerman said to a neighbor and then to the police about SHOOTING Trayvon. In trying to prove Zimmerman was LYING, He told the jury that Zimmerman told the neighbor to tell his wife he had killed Trayvon, then Zimmerman told the police he didn't know he was dead. But the neighbor's testimony was Zimmerman told him to tell his wife he had shot him and he then told the police he didn't know that Trayvon was dead. In the Prosecutor's mind he lied but the testimony from the neighbor said NOTHING ABOUT KILLING HIM
If the Prosecutor would mislead the jury on what was testified to, to try prove his weak case then what else is he willing to "MISLEAD" them about?
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Tam said:
Greta pointed out tonight the Prosecutor mislead the jury in his closing remarks today by lying about what Zimmerman said to a neighbor and then to the police about SHOOTING Trayvon. In trying to prove Zimmerman was LYING, He told the jury that Zimmerman told the neighbor to tell his wife he had killed Trayvon, then Zimmerman told the police he didn't know he was dead. But the neighbor's testimony was Zimmerman told him to tell his wife he had shot him and he then told the police he didn't know that Trayvon was dead. In the Prosecutor's mind he lied but the testimony from the neighbor said NOTHING ABOUT KILLING HIM
If the Prosecutor would mislead the jury on what was testified to, to try prove his weak case then what else is he willing to "MISLEAD" them about?

Racism, guilt, size and physical strength of the deceased, the allegations he is being tried for, following a suspicious person is an attack, T-dogs girlfriend has colorful language, but the dependent has a potty mouth, the girlfriend isn't misinformed or incorrect or ignorant, she just isn't highly educated, lack of injuries to the deceased does not support he was the one being violent... I only watched 5 minutes of closing arguments so I'm sure I missed several others.
 

Whitewing

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Tam said:
Greta pointed out tonight the Prosecutor mislead the jury in his closing remarks today by lying about what Zimmerman said to a neighbor and then to the police about SHOOTING Trayvon. In trying to prove Zimmerman was LYING, He told the jury that Zimmerman told the neighbor to tell his wife he had killed Trayvon, then Zimmerman told the police he didn't know he was dead. But the neighbor's testimony was Zimmerman told him to tell his wife he had shot him and he then told the police he didn't know that Trayvon was dead. In the Prosecutor's mind he lied but the testimony from the neighbor said NOTHING ABOUT KILLING HIM
If the Prosecutor would mislead the jury on what was testified to, to try prove his weak case then what else is he willing to "MISLEAD" them about?

Prosecutors often lie to the jury, that's been proven in countless cases. They also often commit errors of ommission by withholding information from defense councils. In many cases it's all about getting the conviction and little else.

Now there's mounting evidence that the DOJ has meddled in the case by trying to influence public opinion. We already know that The King meddled with his "if I had a son" baloney. Yeah, the same King who won't call the Fort Hood terrorist a terrorist because "we're waiting for the investigation to take place and all the facts to come in".

Then there was that bizarre exchange yesterday with the Judge badgering Zimmerman if/when he was going to testify.

The corruption and incompetence that becomes more evident with every passing day in the government and courts of the US would make any banana republic proud. Unfortunately I don't see any way for it to be stopped as long as so many Americans willingly bend over and grab their ankles and also fall for stupid Hope & Change gimmicks.
 

Steve

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Then there was that bizarre exchange yesterday with the Judge badgering Zimmerman if/when he was going to testify.

and not to be outdone,.. the prosecutor tried to get a child abuse charge...

I just watched the rebuttal... or as much as I could stomach,.. in it he must have said child a few dozen times in the first minute...

not that I have seen many trials.. but why can't the defense have five minutes to counter the prosecutors rebuttal?

especially when he is just repeating what they already tried to alleged?


I guess now all we need to do is wait for the mid-week hanging?

and the subsequent riot.. yep I bet even if he is found guilty there will be a riot..
 
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