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The difference is that the USDA made this mistake. The packers made thier reports as the law states. If the USDA makes a mistake then THEY are responsible. I hate this attitude in our country of hating companies and corporations. Many who have that attitude think they are conservative when...

I dont live on the internet like some of you and yes I was thinking of the Pickett case. Either way the system is set up for appeals. If you lose you pay unless you win the appeal. Herman knew that going in or his lawyers should have told him. This is the fault of the USDA and no one else.

Way off the mark. Herman doesnt live in Alabama he is from SD, so why did they pick Alabama? Because the history of juries there. That is manipulating the system in my book.

And the plaintifs didnt abuse the system by taking it where they did to file? They accidentally chose an area known for huge jury rulings? Give me a break. I for one am glad I have the option to appeal a ruling.

The mistake by your on statement was made by the USDA! Why go after the private sector?

And you consider yourself a conservative? With you attitude you should be really happy with Obama and share the wealth scheme. And remember who filed the suit. Herman did and appeals are part of the process. Ask youself why they filed the suit where they did? certain areas are KNOWN to be more...

Yes but the difference in you and I is that I dont base my opinions off of emotions. I also understand the judicial system.

So juries are always right? Was the OJ simpson jury right? Give me a break

Herman chose to file the lawsuit. He lost and must pay the bill the same as you and I if we file a suit against someone and lose.

Have you seen many black helicopters in your life???

If you are saying that NCBA is working ot increase the amount of imported beef then I do deny it. Like I said, I have seen it myself with MY eyes not being told. I have seen cowboys setting policy. Guys just like you discussing the issues in the hallway, hotel bar, the cafe's or where ever they...

The amount of imported beef is small in comparison to US beef. The more beef that is consumed the tighter the supplies. Surely you have seen cattle cycles etc that prove that. Are the packers our friends? No but they are not the enemy either. They want to buy as cheap as possible and we want to...

It seems there is more in common with Dems than other ag groups. Plus Farmers Union is definately lib and they seem to be pretty big partners with one another.

I'll say this before I turn in. I dont agree with all of NCBA policy nor do I agree with my family and friends one hundred percent. But I have seen cowboys making decisions. Yes feeders have too many votes. But if the cowboys would agree they could outvote the feeders. I guess we are to darn...

I have been and I can tell you that I have not met a packer. Several from feedlots but not packers. I would say that feeders run NCBA more than packers. But to answer your question I would tend to think that the goal of those I have met are more about getting people to eat more beef.

I agree my friend. There is much more all of us cattlemen have in common than not.

You have never been, yet you will make a decision. You owe yourself a trip to see and make sure. I think you would be surprised. There is a lot more debate amongst cattlemen than you may think.

That is not the question. I just wanted to know your opinion.

Are you happy the Dems won and that Obama is the Pres elect?

Have you ever been to an NCBA convention? Have you seen the debates that go on between cattlemen? If no then you really shoud,