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Love 'em all...everyone...and the dog! Alice

Mike, you asked about a possible motive. I can only speculate...and my speculation involves things that will naturally be seen as liberal minded and I don't think that is what you meant this thread to turn into, but here goes. GW has no legal background. GW relies totally on the advice of...

One other thing Mike...what I have said in the above does not make us allies in anything else. However, if it came to me having to walk down the street beside you in protest to have an effect on the outcome of this travesty, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Mighty awful big of me, huh! :D Alice

ok, I'm gonna put my own butt in a sling...my name is Alice That said, I am not a conservative...nor am I a liberal...I am a moderate, right now with liberal leanings. However, I don't think it takes anything other than a thinking human to know that these agents have been railroaded by...

Well, actually, this is what I was talking about, how scientists are saying they have been pressured into downplaying global warming, so I think it's more than the likes of me and Al Gore doing the babbling, but have it your way. Media manipulation, or really manipulation of everything, seems...

For what? Nevermind, YOU don't matter. Jinx

Well, the :???: was meant for getting my name wrong. As for the rest, nevermind, it doesn't matter. Jinx

:???: Never mind, it doesn't matter. It's up to Congress to prove he's lied, and eventually they will, if not over this, then global warming. Jinx

So far, GW's been lucky; he hasn't been under oath when he's lied. Hopefully he'll get his chance at it. Jinx

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but it's morally treasonable to the American public." - Theodore Roosevelt Think about it. Jinx

Congress was not offered bets. They were offered faulty information by a scheming administration. That is what congress acted on. This isn't a win a few, lose a few situation. :mad: Jinx

aplusmnt, do you put up with your children lying to you? Jinx

Maybe, maybe not. We'll see. Jinx

In other words, you really don't want anyone to have the time to hear and then decide. What do you suggest? Waiting until the last minute for anyone to try to mine out the facts, then make an informed decision? Now, if the conservatives weren't on the ropes, would you say the same thing? Jinx

Yeah, but what about the quote? Jinx

Oldtimer, with that quote, you hit the nail dead on the head. Thank you. Jinx

The beauty of the cyberworld argument is that even though knock out punches occur over and over again, the one the punch is delivered to will never acknowledge it. What's the point in continuing to try. Jinx

Aplusmnt, are you advocating doing away with the 2 party system and installing a completely conservative government, much like what we've had the last six years. I guess I'm asking, are you advocating that this country no longer be a democracy? Jinx

I do not wish for it to fail because our children would have died in vain. But, I do think Bush is the most misguided fool on the face of this earth. He and his compadres have divided our country and destroyed another. I love my country; I want our children home and out of harm's way. Bush...

I think the world took Golda Meir pretty seriously, and Indira Ghandi. Jinx