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Don't worry gals I will deal with BMR for his team roping comment :twisted: But I think the guys would look good sweeping all that WHITE :shock: flooring while we are off to the craft sales and antique shops, I hear there are lots in the desert. :wink:

Hey Loomix I think you missed something, Oldtimer said By all the b*tching moaning and groaning Oldtimer does about minerals and supplements not being cheap enough or close enough or that his cattle won't eat or they eat to much, I would have to guess he doesn't have a perfect gene pool...

Does Montana test for Bruc. when cattle are moved from one part of the State to the other part of the same state and not just cross state lines?

Just wondering if Wy. is found to be no longer free what will the regs be for transporting cattle over the State line?

California must have stepped it up a notch as that is the state where :D HAPPY COWS :D come from. :wink: :lol:

Like to ask yourself why the US has a supposed ban on processing downers and Mexico doesn't? could it be because downers are at the highest risk of having BSE and as the world knows but apparently you have forgot again the US is a BSE affected country and Mexico isn't? Want to bet Mexico can...

Do you mean R-CALF lied when they took credit for getting MID taken out of MCOOL :???: Just because some can be traced back doesn't mean ALL can be traced back and if R-CALF would not have had MID taken out of MCOOL you would have been able to trace ALL cattle even those in ALABAMA. Is...

:shock: Want to guess how long it would take the US to retalitate with force if we shut down the pipelines? I'd give them about two minutes

Well let's see We both have BSE BUT Canada ID's their cattle back to birthplace does the US NO (Thanks to R-CALF's they proudly stopped MID :roll: ) Canada had sucess in their BSE investigations did the US NO (two cases and two failed investigation :roll: ) Canada does the correct testing...

Could this all come down to trust Sandhusker? The Mexicans trust Canadian cattle but not your world safest beef raised to the world highest standards. A little transparency in your beef industry might just open borders to you. Why should Mexico become a dumping ground for your cattle Sandhusker...

If the way the producer allowed the trucker to load the truck had something to do with the reason the animal was healthy going on and a downer shortly after coming off. then I say yes. Now answer this, if the so called healthy animal is injured during transport should the packer or the USDA...

So you are telling us that US producers have to have legal regulations to practice common sence to protect your own industry? This is just another excuse to blame someone else and not hold yourself accountable :roll:

Who's fault is it that the cows were hauled to the packing plant, the USDA, the packing plant, trucker or the producer that called the trucker to have them hauled away to get a few bucks for his downers? You can try blame anyone you want but the fact is the first firewall should be the...

By Higher risk areas do you mean the provinces and US STATES like Montana that border Alberta? Tell us Oldtimer how many Montana cows are going into the California slaughter plants then into both human and animal food chains in the US?

:D :D First your little group saddles up to the Consumer Union at a press conference so they can attract media attention in their fight against the USDA and now you are standing up for the USDA against the Consumer Union when they say the USDA testing is flawed Then it's the USDA can't track...

Oldtimer was this not the group your R-CALF buddies were saddled up to at a Press conference a while back? Are they lieing about the testing being done in the US too? :wink:

Sandhusker the problem with the APHIS one time shot testing was pointed out by an audit from the OIG. The audit proved even though alot of testing was done there were regions in the US that did not test enough to show a true picture. In Canada when BSE was found each Province was assigned a...

CRP land is not totally out of Production, you were wrong so Get over it :wink:

Your Words USDA words I don't really care what the prevalents is only that your statement about you don't get to use it is wrong. Cattle producers in the US can and DO use the CRP land for hay with the authorization of the USDA

Did you forget that I have family in the States and I happen to know they have access to CRP just about every year if not every year. yes it may be different land but it is still CRP and they are still harvesting it, AND FEEDING IT TO THEIR CATTLE.