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Most of the time we'll just put some peanut butter on the trigger. They seem to like it.

Couldn't agree with you more but would add that you need to start every hay feeding season with a good test of your available hay. And don't be negative toward utilizing some urea in whatever supplementation you use. Urea improves rumen function and increases the amount of the lower quality...

A pretty good read on affect of nutrition on pregnancy rates, incidence of multiple births etc. Protein, Energy, Vitamins and Minerals are all extremely important. Not the high incidence of twins in dairy cattle with their extremely nutrient dense diets compared to beef breeds...

A tip of the hat to you. Love folks who are passionate about their work and stand behind the products they sell and when they get a new customer they tell the new customer "you also get me....give me a call anytime". :clap: :clap: :clap: Best wishes !!

Really??? Use to know a good nutritionist that worked out of that plant. Mr. Tim Smith. Haven't heard from him in several years but always thought the world of him. He may be retired by now. We're all getting a bit "long in the tooth". :lol: I'm still curious as to how much yeast is included...

FH in short I simply can't afford it. It's outrageously high down here even though at one time there was a plant up around Weatherford, Texas. I can't complain about the Purina. 100% of the zinc, manganese, copper and cobalt are chelates (amino acid complexes) and the cattle consume it at...

Vigortone has always had an excellent reputation for making high quality mineral backed by a lot of research and excellent quality control, however, I'm wondering if they have ever moved forward and began using any chelates in their mineral mixes instead of just the same old oxides and sulfates...

My grandmother died at almost 101. Red meat, hog lard and Garrett's snuff killed her. :lol2:

You can "promote" all you want. People buy what they can afford which is most often chicken.

What kind of breeding do you do OT? Timed AI or what? Just saw where you said they run on huge acreage of gov't land with cattle from several other operations and wondered how in the world you would know which bull bred which cow.

Take a little credit yourself. Maybe you're a bit better this year. :wink:

I know Purina and Hubbard Milling make one. I'm sure there are probably others.

http://dairy.ifas.ufl.edu/dpc/2007/Staples.pdf There you go.....you can read it yourself. Now you STFU !!!!

The very article you posted recently quoting the gentleman from Land O' Lakes explained what is is, where it comes from and how to feed it. Also gave warnings for the uninformed and self educated. Maybe you should go back and read it. No where did he say "Do not feed to commerical and/or dairy...

Many cow/calf operations as well as a huge majority of dairy operations that feed a TMR feed corn gluten feed and/or DDG every day of the year. As mentioned even by the Land O' Lakes rep. at the bottom of the article "management" is a key factor. When fed properly CGF and DDG are not fed as...

Even Barney would go along with that. He loves anybody that's "hung". :lol2:

BarBar that's how I would do it anyway. Not to many in the US do the seasonal dairying....most want those barns running 24/7 if possible. Dowtime could be a great time for haying operation as well as barn repairs and other maintenance things that often are put off. And all the cows get their dry...

Technically there's a huge difference between roughage and forage. Forage as we think of it dang sure don't come in a bag or a creep feeder.

HD...I guess since we post on CT folks on Ranchers look down on us. Same :wink:

What's the bad taste everyone has in their mouth with Monsanto??? The oats should be fine. Probably better even than the larger oats as they're small for a reason....they're not fully developed so you'll be feeding more oat hulls and less of the actual meat. Protein will be a bit lower but fiber...