...the one thing that happened up here in Canada is that the cow herd grew... but if any these guys took the time to look at our carcass weights...they would see they have not went up...if we were holding feeders longer the carcass weights would have gone up... on another note after the feedlots up here took their original kickin after May 20/03... have bought light feeders where there was positive margins... another reason to have kept their lots current...