Lily.......them's the kind that you call "open" as soon as they hit the headgate and blow up. If you think fast you can even come up with sound reasoning as to why you don't even need to palpate to confirm your diagnoses! The absolute worst that can happen is that they get someone else the next time!! :lol:

Maybe we should check with Northern Rancher and see if he A.I.'s his roughstock from that position.......looks kinda awkward to me :wink:  :lol: