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bred cow prices

A bull customer called this morning looking for bulls. He was out of the cow business for a few weeks with the intentions of running yearlings. After not buying many calves he found a couple hundred fall calving cows with calves on them for $1300 a pair. The story is the owners lost their grass leases to JBS and stocker cattle. Anyone else hear this story?
 
Justin said:
leanin' H said:
Justin said:
if prices hold out, then yes, i agree with you. but nobody knows that, therefor..to much risk. IMO

You do realize that you just admitted agreeing with me and Northern Rancher in the same week don't ya? :???: What's the world coming to? :shock: :lol: :lol:

Those numbers for bred cows scare off lots of folks. Most folks who make a lot of money don't do what a lot of folks do. :wink: Remember, if your getting $900 + for feeder heifers what does that make a good replacement heifer that will still need to be bred and run for a year before she calves? And another 8 months before you can ship her calf? I still think $1500 is about market value considering where the rest of the market has been lately. You are 8 months away from getting over half your money back and you'll still have a good young cow. If prices drop you are 8 months away from selling a $500 dollar calf and you still have a good young cow that increases your cow numbers for years to come when everybody else was shrinking their herd to chase the money now. In the long run it makes sense, even if prices dive. If prices stay high on calves it makes sense in to the short run too. :D

do you boys out in your neck of the woods not feed your cows all year long? you are saying a $800 calf is putting over half the cost of the heifer back in your pocket :shock: ? must be nice to have the cost of production be $0. :?

as for agreeing with you and NR...it worries me aswell. :wink:

I penciled it out a dozen different ways, one can always make the figures work, but when you really put everything down even opportunity cost the numbers sometimes just don't come out all rosy
 
Me & the wife just got a FSA loan. We are to buy breds this fall, however prices are...well, wild. We like to have solid mouth breds for we live up in high country. They need to be somewhat tough. Don't want broke mouths, for I don't want to spend all winter chewing thier feed for them. Young breds... well I don't think they got what it takes fend off wolves, short of me being out there letting the air out of those transplanted muts 24,7. I know some folks might say LONGHORNS but they don't carry well in our angus market. Like to have some positive feed back. Thank you.
 
CURT D. JAMES said:
Me & the wife just got a FSA loan. We are to buy breds this fall, however prices are...well, wild. We like to have solid mouth breds for we live up in high country. They need to be somewhat tough. Don't want broke mouths, for I don't want to spend all winter chewing thier feed for them. Young breds... well I don't think they got what it takes fend off wolves, short of me being out there letting the air out of those transplanted muts 24,7. I know some folks might say LONGHORNS but they don't carry well in our angus market. Like to have some positive feed back. Thank you.


Sounds like you got things figured out it's just a matter of getting the cows bought at the right price. I'd be thinking local cows as cows moved in from a different environment probably wouldn't handle your conditions very well.
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
CURT D. JAMES said:
Me & the wife just got a FSA loan. We are to buy breds this fall, however prices are...well, wild. We like to have solid mouth breds for we live up in high country. They need to be somewhat tough. Don't want broke mouths, for I don't want to spend all winter chewing thier feed for them. Young breds... well I don't think they got what it takes fend off wolves, short of me being out there letting the air out of those transplanted muts 24,7. I know some folks might say LONGHORNS but they don't carry well in our angus market. Like to have some positive feed back. Thank you.


Sounds like you got things figured out it's just a matter of getting the cows bought at the right price. I'd be thinking local cows as cows moved in from a different environment probably wouldn't handle your conditions very well.

I know a guy that intends to sell everything over 5 years old this fall. :wink:
Are they worth any more if they are already wolf trained and acclimated? :lol:
 
Never had quite so much interest in what were going to price our breds at this fall-I've just been saying we'd better get them bred first. I would like to keep them but can get with the health deal-no real good hay to be had and the chance to get rid of some debt we'll probably sell about half of what we breed. Through all the years other than the BSE fiasco the breeding female deal has been the kindest profit wise at our place.
 

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