Pretty hard to pick the big calves from the small ones when they ship cattle from the feedlot-been there done the big calf thing used to argue as hard as anybody they were just as lively-some are but alot aren't. I'll never be caught pushing a another big dumb calf up to an udder to suck-I don't care if he's black,white,hairy,slick,long, square or polkadotted-the misery from pushing the  BW deal just isn't worth it. It does make interesting coffe shop talk.