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Hereford76

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must be a heck of niche. northern video today. galt ranch just sold 350 weaned hfrs and strs for dec 15 to dec 30, shots, etc. @ 440lbs for 302.50. strs hfrs same price all out of first calf angus heifers and purebred wygu bulls. whats the story? dish network channel 92
 
Hereford76 said:
must be a heck of niche. northern video today. galt ranch just sold 350 weaned hfrs and strs for dec 15 to dec 30, shots, etc. @ 440lbs for 302.50. strs hfrs same price all out of first calf angus heifers and purebred wygu bulls. whats the story? dish network channel 92

Yep its quite a hot item...Lot better prices using wagyu bulls on their heifers than those guys that use longhorns...

I can see why they can pay those prices if they can charge $60 a steak for rib steak, $13+ a pound for burger and $78 for a filet mignon...
http://www.allenbrothers.com/wagyu.html?p=1

Wonder what that would cost in a restaurant?

But you have to be big enough- or go into a cooperative with neighbors in order to supply that number to the niche market..
 
Takes a lot longer to feed for that highly marbled beef. I don't know how they make any money when you get the feedlot costs involved.

It took a looong time to feed these. Almost a year.

Wagyu Cattle Cross Experiment

By John Brethour, Beef Cattle Scientist of Western Kansas Agricultural Research Centers

In this experiment, a Wagyu bull was crossed with Charolais cows in an effort to provide a quality, lean carcass.

"The experiment involved steers produced from crossing Wagyu bulls and Charolais cows. They are part of a research goal to improve management strategies for production of high quality beef. Specifically these cattle were acquired to track the development of marbling as a function of time on feed in order to improve prediction models based on ultrasound estimates of marbling.

Wagyu is a high marbling breed from Japan. The cross with Charolais considered that a high marbling but lean carcass might be the result. That in fact occurred. The steers were harvested December 29, 1999. The 17 sold at that time graded 88% Prime (15/17) and the other two were average and high Choice. They were 47 percent Yield Grade 1, and also 47 percent Yield Grade 2 while one steer was a Yield Grade 3. Back-fat averaged only .30 inch. This might very well be the best carcass results on a group of cattle in the history of grading cattle in this country."



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"The cattle graded more than 90 percent prime, and the men took six to the 1999 National Western Stock Show for the carcass contest, where they won 1st place with an unprecedented 100%, Prime-graded group. 'One judge said this was 'the best set of carcasses I've ever seen in my life,' Brethour said."

Kansas State Researcher and Extension Animal Scientist, John Brethour, and Jim Scott, owner of Prime Line Genetics
 
Well for some of those big ranch's that pasture calve large amounts of heifers and have been using Longhorns- this looks like a more profitable alternative...

In looking over the results of the whole sale- it was pleasant to see that the local area 575-600 Lb steer calves were bringing right around $1000... Some a little under- some a little over...
 
Oldtimer said:
Well for some of those big ranch's that pasture calve large amounts of heifers and have been using Longhorns- this looks like a more profitable alternative...

In looking over the results of the whole sale- it was pleasant to see that the local area 575-600 Lb steer calves were bringing right around $1000... Some a little under- some a little over...
and $4fuel, and $40 baling twine , oh a insurance deductible for shoulder :roll:
 
jodywy said:
Oldtimer said:
Well for some of those big ranch's that pasture calve large amounts of heifers and have been using Longhorns- this looks like a more profitable alternative...

In looking over the results of the whole sale- it was pleasant to see that the local area 575-600 Lb steer calves were bringing right around $1000... Some a little under- some a little over...
and $4fuel, and $40 baling twine , oh a insurance deductible for shoulder :roll:


a baler doubles in price every 10 years, a brand new swather is 150K, land price has gone up about 200/acre since 09 here atleast... and on and on. guess i need to use a wygu bull!
 
I'd rather be poor than run waygu bulls. :D Wait, already there. :cry: Neighbor tried them for 3 years. Had a bunch of ragtailed, no a$$, under-muscled calves that were hard to give away. Went back to crossbreeding his angus cowherd to simmy-angus bulls. But to each his own. 3$ a pound would be nice if it only would work in my world. :?
 
I'm only guessing, as I do in most thoughts I have in this life, but it seems a guy ought to have a couple of potential buyers lined up before he turns in the Wagyu bulls. Also, only use them on heifers and be sure to have a load of calves to go. Agribeef feeds a bunch of Wagyu cattle in Idaho and they lease out Wagyu bulls to supply their needs. Don't know if they pay quite that good but there are likely only a few buyers in the market.
 
My daughter works on a place that has Pure breed Wygu. she says , poor milkers bad mothers and small pelvic scores.
She got a week of Schooling from a breeder that came over from Japan here a couple weeks ago. He was upset the cattle were out on pasture , told her they needed to be in a barn :roll: on a special diet, that too much roughage caused external fat and not marbling.
:shock:
 

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