Randy, I don't totally agree with Agman, but I did see things in a similar light to him before I even began posting here.  I did not submit to agman because of his attitude, I did not really appreciate that comment.

Anyway....Randy, do you have some specific questions or issues surrounding packer profits which you want adressed?  Maybe it is all in here but what exactly are you mad about (in a consice statement, may help you focus a bit)? 

Packers are making too much money?  Have you thought about anyways to address this?  (The ironic thing is that I think the best way to deal with it is to do exactly what you are doing and building relationships and creating your own markets.  I have been direct selling as well and liking the results) 

My frustration is so many people are mad at the packers but they are not willing to do anything about it, so I get frustrated trying to help people who won't help themselves.  Just trying to understand a bit of what makes you tick. 

I am here in Canada with you Randy, I know the frustration, I have some extra 2 year old bulls I am taking a big licken on, but I am trying to move on, I think everyone needs to do that.