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LadyRichards

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My new horse does great, she leaves dosnt spoke, goes all over with me, we only have one bad problem she wants to get very excited on the way back, when I first got her I had to get off 4 times to calm her down, the secound time only 2 times. then I got tired of getting down and stayed on which was ok but had to hold her back and talk to her the whole way.

Today I took her for very short ride just to keep her going, and well had to get off 1 time, it gets me very upset with her, she hasnt hurt me and I have been able to control her, but its very hard somtimes and sure makes coming home not fun, what can I do, thought about going to a hackamore, im not a trainer or experenced rider keep hoping she will get better as long as im making her walk home, hoping she will catch on, what do you think what can I do.
 
Dont ever get off them that just teaches them every time they act stupid that you will get off thats not a good thing to do at all . I replied to your other thread about this .
 
This post clears up the other one a bit....Sounds like the only time he is not in que with your direction is when he is at home........


First off, when you get frustrated, both you and the horse lose....Don't take his wanting to do something personal. Look to the enjoyment of figuring out the challenge.....

Getting off.......I wouldn't.....He has just relieved (I am guessing) 110 pounds from his back by misbehaving......Seems like a potential reward...

I like the short rien deal I described in your other thread...He is chosing to bump the bit as a lead goes forward. He will tire of that. The reason i like that is it seems to have quicker results than the loping deal....I know some horses with a lot of stamina when it comes to "Running home"...but i know the loping circles deal does work well....

One other thing may be to work his tail off in his "Home pen' and then go for a relaxed ride away from home....Hee Hee, this may take a week if he has Hancock blood, LOL,

Good luck, keep at it and you'll be able to enjoy your horse 24/7 and feel the reward of having don something well,

PPRM
 
Hey now ^^^^^ dont be pokin fun at my breed now ha ha no makin fun of them hancock horses . Got to have a little attitude or i feel like i am ridin a livery plug , and a few jumps now and then is a good thing . :) :) :) :) :)
 
LOL az,

Actually was a compliment...Try to tire one out, LOL,

BTW, on the other thread, on the short rein deal, it is simply settng it up to where they bump into the bit if they decide to go out of a walk.Defineltly is not jerking on the head. It takes some handle being there already for it to be effective, but it was quickly effective with that mare I did it to. You are right, barn sour horses are about the most frustrating ones to deal with,

PPRM
 
azcowpuncher said:
Hey now ^^^^^ dont be pokin fun at my breed now ha ha no makin fun of them hancock horses . Got to have a little attitude or i feel like i am ridin a livery plug , and a few jumps now and then is a good thing . :) :) :) :) :)
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Hi thank you for the info, I feel good when I seceeded probably spelled that wrong, and I understand about getting off, I just get a little uneasy with her would send a picture of her if you can tell me how to do it.

Thanks again
 
A real good old cowboy that I knew called those horses "Barn Happy".
I thought that was a real positive way of putting it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

My suggestion is, when you get home, make that place UNcomfortable as you can. We had a horse years ago that was really bad about loving the barn. Finally we opened all the gates around the barn and loped him around and around through those gates. At one point Mr. FH rode the horse away from the barn and turned him around. He was immediately jigging and wanting to go back to the barn. So a young fella that worked for us got on him and gave him more of the same. The next time they rode him away from the barn, he went to the creek, he went to the house, he went any place other than the barn.
That one session did break him of loving the barn, but it wasn't easy.
GOOD LUCK!!

Remember, always make the right things easy and the wrong things difficult. I have heard of tying a horse in the barn with his head tied high, but you wouldn't want to leave him too long, and I can't imagine this working as he is still standing still, which is a reward for them.

And if you feel more safe getting off, I would get off...but I'm not very tough either.
 
Like i said before gettin off is not an option if you get off he has won the battle and he will do it from then on till you get the guts enough to stay on him . That is horseman ship 101 you dont get off them when they act stupid it makes the problem worse and will develop more problems he has been hidin and knows he can get away with it cause you will just get off when he does it . I used to ride sour horses and colts for the public ( never ever will i ever do that again ) and i rode alot of trash that people have screwed up because they get scared and get off walk him home and put him away no no no , if you get scared like that sell him to someone who will use him , dont let it get worse till you pay out the ash to get it fixed .
 
Anyway, that is your opinion AZ. One top horseman that I know personally says when a horse has a problem running off, before he runs off, he prepares to run off. When you feel that happening, get off and cradle his head. Take that energy out of him on the ground.

So, there are more than one way to do it right.

And this horseman is as good a hand with cattle as you will find in the whole country. He is a cowboy of the old school, only he has learned some things (lots of things) from the horses. He rides a bunch...and covers a lot of country...so please don't think differently.

The main thing is TO NOT GET HURT!
 
Faster horses said:
Anyway, that is your opinion AZ. One top horseman that I know personally says when a horse has a problem running off, before he runs off, he prepares to run off. When you feel that happening, get off and cradle his head. Take that energy out of him on the ground.

So, there are more than one way to do it right.

And this horseman is as good a hand with cattle as you will find in the whole country. He is a cowboy of the old school, only he has learned some things (lots of things) from the horses. He rides a bunch...and covers a lot of country...so please don't think differently.

The main thing is TO NOT GET HURT!
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Thank you so much for this. I needed t hear that about getting off. I have a friend that does some training and he says if not sure, or horse isnt sure then get off and calm him down, like you said nothing wrong with being safe. I do make sure she is holding still and not throwing her fit before I get down, and we always finish are ride with me on her, and her walking home.

Any other info feel free to help, always need it.

Lisa
 
LadyRichards-- I know your problem-- After looking at your pictures I see you have a "stampede string"....Horse is just taking his cue from your dress :wink: :lol: :lol:
 
Oldtimer said:
LadyRichards-- I know your problem-- After looking at your pictures I see you have a "stampede string"....Horse is just taking his cue from your dress :wink: :lol: :lol:
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can you explain more, if you are talking about the one im on, I have know problems with her, she is my main ridding horse, I have never had a problem with her, we were having much fun that day, playing around in the hamocks.
 
LadyRichards said:
Oldtimer said:
LadyRichards-- I know your problem-- After looking at your pictures I see you have a "stampede string"....Horse is just taking his cue from your dress :wink: :lol: :lol:
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can you explain more, if you are talking about the one im on, I have know problems with her, she is my main ridding horse, I have never had a problem with her, we were having much fun that day, playing around in the hamocks.
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LadyRichard-- I was just teasing...The strap you have on your hat in the pictures is called a "stampede string" around here- altho not seen very often except on can chasers.....
 
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LadyRichards said:
Oldtimer said:
LadyRichards-- I know your problem-- After looking at your pictures I see you have a "stampede string"....Horse is just taking his cue from your dress :wink: :lol: :lol:
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can you explain more, if you are talking about the one im on, I have know problems with her, she is my main ridding horse, I have never had a problem with her, we were having much fun that day, playing around in the hamocks.
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LadyRichard-- I was just teasing...The strap you have on your hat in the pictures is called a "stampede string" around here- altho not seen very often except on can chasers.....
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Oh ok yea I need a good hat with out a string lol.
 
Faster horses said:
Ahhhh, come on now OT. I know you've had one on your hat for a while now. :P :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink: :!:
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Been a time or two as I get older- and getting on and off is harder, that in our normal 45 mph daily breeze, that I've thought of grabbing a chunk of baling twine to wrap around that darn thing......Guess thats what they make long bandannas and wildrags for....

I do love stampede strings for the grandkids-- saves Grandpa climbing on and off several times altho they still get them blowed off somehow :roll:
 
We had bought a horse with a similar condition as you discribe. My yongest son started riding this horse just a short distance and then bringing him back...then out again..and back...When he got back he would do circles and figure eights and work him...here pretty hard...then ride him off again...easy..he kept this up till the horse was willing to ride away and back at the same speed...after several days of this the horse was more ready to ride off then to stay around...as the work was easier out in the pasture and the woods than at the barn. This horse also was well aware of who to try the "barn happy' thing with. He never tried an experienced rider after that, but would now and then try a green rider. I think that AZ has lots of truth in the NOT gettin off. The getting off thing, I think, is ok if you are in a bad situation, and it might be a onetime thing. If you want to get your horse to stop being barn happy...that will not help. You will be much better off to take control and do the things that make the horse want to do what you are asking. And if that horse will stand and let you remount, and will stand and let you get off , I would say he is not a horse that is OUT OF CONTROL..he is just testing the rider! I bet you can get him out of that pretty fast, buy just working him harder at the barn than in the trails.
 
Maybe this has been covered in another thread, but thought I'd throw in my two cents. When your mare wants to speed up while heading home, just pull her around (not neck reining, but pulling around one rein or the other to one firm position, perhaps pull back to your thigh and hold it there instead of jerking or "pulling" on her head so much) and make her do a circle or two. You don't necessarily need to lope circles, just make her work at doing a circle if she wants to go faster than you do. Every time she kicks it up a gear just do a small circle with her head bent around. You will be making the high speed more work and the slower speed easier. It's not nearly as comfortable for the horse to bend around and do a tight circle as it is to walk in a straight line. Keep this up all the way home. Should also help you to slow her down quickly and help you feel safer when she's occupied with turning around.

Just another idea!

HP
 

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