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[Econ101]

Conman: "I keep telling you to look at the relative value of the substitutes as well as the domestic beef supplies."

I don't listen to anything you tell me because you've proven yourself to be a complete idot and a liar to boot.


~SH~

If you have proof, SH, bring it. Otherwise you are just a name caller and a fruitbasket. What happens in Cody when one is called a fruitbasket?

 

[ocm]

Hanta Yo,

Thank you for being part of the forward thinking, factual based segment of this industry and stepping apart from the blamers.

OCM: "This action was consistent with existing directives. Continuing this lawsuit was a question addressed to the board of directors. The decision was to continue.

In fact I'll even take a little credit for it. For reasons that don't matter I was on a personal phone call to a director. He expressed chagrin that there was some thought being given to halting the "Canadian border lawsuit". I gave him my reasons for continuing. He thought my reasons were excellent. Apparently, he passed them on to the board of directors. A different director called me later to thank me for what I had told the other guy. This director said that my arguments were well received by the board and that they likely made a difference in what was decided. So R-CALF continued with the request for refiling."

Good choice OCM! You'll never win it anyway and the more money R-CALF wastes on their frivilous lawsuits, the more people will see them for the backwards thinking organization they are.

The absolute stupidist political move I have ever seen in my life was R-CALF risking the integrity of 80% of our U.S. beef consumption to stop the importation of 4% - 5% of our U.S. beef consumption by lying about BSE.

It's no surprise that you would be part of influencing such a stupid decision. I'd love to have you explain to a jury how Canadian beef can be "contaminated" and "high risk" due to BSE in their native herd and U.S. beef be the "safest beef in the world due to our firewalls" after we had BSE in our herd. I'd love to hear you compare our efforts of BSE testing to Canada's efforts. You'd get dizzy spinning in your chair trying to explain the difference in precautionary measures and explaining why our export markets should treat the U.S. any different.

AND FOR WHAT???

Canada would simply absorb that same portion of our export market. It's not like you are going to remove Canadian beef from the world market. What we would gain by stopping Canadian imports we would eventually lose in our export markets. That's how smart you guys are.

First, you don't know enough about the impact of imports to make a rational decision and then your not smart enough to understand the consequences of your actions. What a sad state of affairs.



~SH~

You have not even come close to the rationale I presented. And you won't. I am pleased to see you think it is a waste. Under certain conditions a loss is still a win. Look at Kelo.

 

[Econ101]

Hanta Yo,

Thank you for being part of the forward thinking, factual based segment of this industry and stepping apart from the blamers.

OCM: "This action was consistent with existing directives. Continuing this lawsuit was a question addressed to the board of directors. The decision was to continue.

In fact I'll even take a little credit for it. For reasons that don't matter I was on a personal phone call to a director. He expressed chagrin that there was some thought being given to halting the "Canadian border lawsuit". I gave him my reasons for continuing. He thought my reasons were excellent. Apparently, he passed them on to the board of directors. A different director called me later to thank me for what I had told the other guy. This director said that my arguments were well received by the board and that they likely made a difference in what was decided. So R-CALF continued with the request for refiling."

Good choice OCM! You'll never win it anyway and the more money R-CALF wastes on their frivilous lawsuits, the more people will see them for the backwards thinking organization they are.

The absolute stupidist political move I have ever seen in my life was R-CALF risking the integrity of 80% of our U.S. beef consumption to stop the importation of 4% - 5% of our U.S. beef consumption by lying about BSE.

It's no surprise that you would be part of influencing such a stupid decision. I'd love to have you explain to a jury how Canadian beef can be "contaminated" and "high risk" due to BSE in their native herd and U.S. beef be the "safest beef in the world due to our firewalls" after we had BSE in our herd. I'd love to hear you compare our efforts of BSE testing to Canada's efforts. You'd get dizzy spinning in your chair trying to explain the difference in precautionary measures and explaining why our export markets should treat the U.S. any different.

AND FOR WHAT???

Canada would simply absorb that same portion of our export market. It's not like you are going to remove Canadian beef from the world market. What we would gain by stopping Canadian imports we would eventually lose in our export markets. That's how smart you guys are.

First, you don't know enough about the impact of imports to make a rational decision and then your not smart enough to understand the consequences of your actions. What a sad state of affairs.



~SH~

You have not even come close to the rationale I presented. And you won't. I am pleased to see you think it is a waste. Under certain conditions a loss is still a win. Look at Kelo.

Look at a cross.

 

[Anonymous]

OCM: "You have not even come close to the rationale I presented. And you won't."

You don't have any rationale. If you did, you'd present it. You just create an "ILLUSION" of rationale by claiming to have presented rationale because it's a lot easier than bringing that "SUPPOSED" rationale to the table for scrutiny.

You got nothing OCM!

Conman: "If you have proof, SH, bring it."

If someone wants proof that you are an idiot, all they have to do is read your empty posts.



~SH~

 

[mrj]

Many are starting to see R-CALF/OCM for what it really is. A group of blamers who base their decisions on emotion rather than fact and want the government to step in and save them from their "PERCEIVED" problems.

In other words, a total waste of time and effort.


~SH~

How is that? Who is this "many"? Where did you get your information from? Sure this isn't just YOUR OPINION? :roll: Need I remind you that your credibilty on this board has already been defined?

Might be the 4,000 new first time NCBA members joining in the past year!

MRJ

 

[Tommy]

mj...Might be the 4,000 new first time NCBA members joining in the past year!

What does that bring your total count up to now mj?

 

[Econ101]

OCM: "You have not even come close to the rationale I presented. And you won't."

You don't have any rationale. If you did, you'd present it. You just create an "ILLUSION" of rationale by claiming to have presented rationale because it's a lot easier than bringing that "SUPPOSED" rationale to the table for scrutiny.

You got nothing OCM!

Conman: "If you have proof, SH, bring it."

If someone wants proof that you are an idiot, all they have to do is read your empty posts.



~SH~

What about you, SH? Can you post proof, or do you just like using that phrase on others?

 

[Sandhusker]

SH, "It's true! The guy believed R-CALF's prediction that the Canadian border would result in lower cattle prices so he sold on the video instead of when he normally would. R-CALF's lies cost him money as he sees it. I can't help that you don't like to face the consequences of R-CALF's lies but they are real just the same. Keep nodding your head Tommy as they tell you what you want to believe. Good and faithful servent! LOL!"

It's always somebody else's fault when you sell at the wrong time. Key word in your story, "PREDICTION". This person is a grown man (I assume) and in charge of his own decisions. By comparison, how many losing stock trades are blamed everyday on the broker? I used to be one. When people make money, it is their decision on the trade and all I did was provide information for them. When they lost it was my bad recommendation. If you want to label somebody a blamer....

 

[Anonymous]

I agree totally Sandbag, the guy was a fool to listen to anything R-CALF had to say about cattle markets. Talk about the blind leading the blind.

Conman: "What about you, SH? Can you post proof, or do you just like using that phrase on others?"

Why would I need to post proof that you are an idiot? Your posts are proof of that. Any can read your stupid statements and make up their own mind.



~SH~

 

[Econ101]

I agree totally Sandbag, the guy was a fool to listen to anything R-CALF had to say about cattle markets. Talk about the blind leading the blind.

Conman: "What about you, SH? Can you post proof, or do you just like using that phrase on others?"

Why would I need to post proof that you are an idiot? Your posts are proof of that. Any can read your stupid statements and make up their own mind.



~SH~

What happens when someone calls you a fruitbasket in Cody?

 

[Anonymous]

Conman: "What happens when someone calls you a fruitbasket in Cody?"

I'm not from Cody you idiot! Ask Sandbag, that's where he's from.


~SH~

 

[Econ101]

Conman: "What happens when someone calls you a fruitbasket in Cody?"

I'm not from Cody you idiot! Ask Sandbag, that's where he's from.


~SH~

Where you from, SH?

 

[Anonymous]

What is your name Conman?


~SH~

 

[agman]

Conman: "I keep telling you to look at the relative value of the substitutes as well as the domestic beef supplies."

I don't listen to anything you tell me because you've proven yourself to be a complete idot and a liar to boot.


~SH~

If you have proof, SH, bring it. Otherwise you are just a name caller and a fruitbasket. What happens in Cody when one is called a fruitbasket?

Domestic beef production was up, pork production was up as was chicken production. Cattle prices still went up. That should not happen according to your phony belief and comment "prices cannot go up unless supplies go down". Trapped again in your fantasy world are you? R-Calf's scare tactics are par and accepted by the misinformed.

 

[Econ101]

I don't listen to anything you tell me because you've proven yourself to be a complete idot and a liar to boot.


~SH~

If you have proof, SH, bring it. Otherwise you are just a name caller and a fruitbasket. What happens in Cody when one is called a fruitbasket?

Domestic beef production was up, pork production was up as was chicken production. Cattle prices still went up. That should not happen according to your phony belief and comment "prices cannot go up unless supplies go down". Trapped again in your fantasy world are you? R-Calf's scare tactics are par and accepted by the misinformed.

Agman, Agman, agman. You left out the operative words. "All other things being held constant". We know from even your numbers that they are not. The margins in beef fluctuate quite a bit, don't they. And yet you let SH live in his "packers are margin producer" world.

I am glad to see you are chiming in. Care to answer a few questions that have been left in your court?

 

[Hanta Yo]

"Leadership does not have to have explicit instructions from membership prior to action. However, if leadership ignored an explicit instruction, you can bet there would be hell to pay. Is that the way it works in the organizations you are a part of?"


You are treading dangerous waters, here, sandhusker. NOTHING is acted upon until approved by membership. Of course, there are situations which need IMMEDIATE ACTION and that is why you have your Executive Committee. HOWEVER, in the 2 cases I've been involved with, the Executive Committee was consulted to spend a little bit more money than voted upon by the BOD because a better deal came up. All that is in the By-Laws.

If R-Calf is managed by the first paragraph above, NO WONDER I am no part of it. My whole gut feeling about your organization is described by the first paragraph. Run by one because all your members are "followers".

Geeeesh!

You keep telling yourself that Hanta & listening to Sam Elliot,Geeeesh! talk about telling em lies and feeding em candy,you Ladies are too easy............good luck

I absolutely love those chocolate covered turtles mmmmmm :wink: