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here's our new galloway bull--
 
You're going to have to give that poor boy a haircut...Got to 80 hear today- he'd roast....Thundershower hit a little while ago- in between heavy down pours I checked the gauge and .4 :D and its still raining :D and the radar shows the really heavy stuff went thru both our north pastures :D

I really like Galloway's...Really got interested in them after I read the MSU study report on how much more feed/energy efficient they were in these north country winters...

Only drawback is most buyers want to discount the heck out of the shaggy hair....
 
Pretty good looking bull. Too bad he's black :D
It's a crying shame they discount that hair, I'd sure be interested in crossing. Good luck, and be sure to show us next falls results when the time comes.
 
I don't know how much the Galloway really gets discounted in different areas but not all Galloway coats are the same. The kind there was a real objection to in the old country was the ones with a hard wiry black hair - with good reason too because they were a poorer doing type that were hard to fatten. The bull pictured here has an excellent soft brown mossy hair coat just like a good Galloway should. Apart from the wind catching his longer shoulder hair and making it stand out that bull really doesn't have long hair for the time of year. Bear in mind too if you use a Galloway bull on a smooth coated cow the calves will have half the coat. Up here they are quite happy buying good calves with a good haircoat - makes sense in a country where we have winter. When I started selling Luing calves here the buyers would see them coming into the ring and say "wow! look at the coats on these red Angus" now they know better - they know them for the superior cattle they are :wink: :lol: :lol:
Looks like a good bull Lonecowboy - good on you for daring to be different :wink:
 
Nice Galloway bull. It would be nice if breeders took care of there breeding animals like other breeds do to give Galloways a fair chance.

I was told that Salers breeders in France give their cattle a shot of copper that slicks them off wonder if that would work here.

I watched a RFD Sale a couple of years ago the breeder had three breeds
two of which he fed and fitted them like others do but for some unknown reason he treated his Galloways like rough range animals. and they sold that way.

We had Galloways for several years and if you feed and treat them like other beef animals they will perform the same if not better.
 
Doug Thorson said:
I think the reason Galloways get discounted here is because the feedlots south of here get more mud than winter.
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Thats exactly what a buyer told me when I asked about them...They don't like them in the feedlots because that long hair gets all caked up with mud...
 
Galloways really were never belted. Since that breed went to hobby people they accepted every color. Granted the Beltes are the show cattle.

Every cattle buyer can only make money by buying cheap. They have all excueses how to buy cattle cheap. Galloways make them money fast IF they keep them on feed.
The real issue is Galloway breeders can not and will not feed, manange, breed and health their cattle today, More importantly they just do not have the gentic base to breed from
It has been well noted that Great Galloways became Angus since the early 50s
 
You are right Hillsdown, the belted cattle are genuine and have been around a long time - only in very small numbers until the hobby people took an interest in them. Same with the duns, been around for ever but there have only ever been around 4 or 5 original herds of them in Scotland.
The "reds" are the ones that amuse me - only found in North America, if you trace back the pedigrees you always come to an "unknown ancestor", and not that far back. Growing up in the Galloway region of Scotland and being friends with families that have registered galloways since the first herd book in the 1800s I have never even heard circumstantial evidence of a red galloway being born.
 
I always thought the hair was a distinct advantage in Galloways?

Allows them to stay warmer with less backfat, with too much backfat being a definite disadvantage.

A cattle buyer could find fault with a money tree. :roll:

And to think a rancher even listens to them. :???:
 
Mike that is what I have read as well, that they put the fat where it is utilized best therefore are more efficient, especially in a cold weather climate.

I am surrounded by a lot of large successful beef operations that have been around for many generations and pretty much everyone of them has Galloway's in them..
 
Our family owned a very good Black Galloway cow that traced back to a line from southern alberta. This cow was purchased. She produced Red calves that produced Red calves. That cow family was eight head when dad sold them all to a cattlewomen in norhtern wyoming.
We never had any red ones since that was in the early 70s.
I stand to be corrected about the belts. I always thought they were Dutch Belted. Where does the White Galloway fit in.
When the American let in all colors of Galloways in was when we went another direction. We had always had Blacks.
 
Hay Feeder said:
Where does the White Galloway fit in.
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Like the duns and the belties the whites are genuine enough but again a numerically tiny population in Scotland. I think really these coloreds were just the play things of previous generations "hobby farmers". As far as I know in Scotland there have only ever been blacks and duns registered in the herd book. I assume the belties and whites have their own herd books or records. There are no reds in Scotland.
 
The Canadian Assoc is still the only "closed" herdbook for Galloways in the world, not allowing any breeding up in its history. The Belted cattle are in a separate section of the herdbook, as are the whites. If you cross a solid colored - True Galloway - with a Beltie or a White, the subsequent offspring can only be registered in the White or Belted section of the herdbook.

By the way, nice bull way back at the beginning of the thread LC.
 
Mike said:
A cattle buyer could find fault with a money tree. :roll:

And to think a rancher even listens to them. :???:
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Most grant money for university PhD's research comes from supplement/drug companies.

And to think a rancher even listens to them. :???:
 
It is often the case that the best adapted breeds to many environments are often not the type that attain the best price at auction. The best breeding program is to maintain a good quality herd of purebred adapted cattle to use as a base breed which is bred to a breed that will balance out the characteristics between the adapted breed and the marketable requirements, either as an F1 terminal, or as an F1 damline to use a terminal breed which will attain the best price at sale.
 

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