Rod, I have a degree in Agronomy, farmed for 17 years, and ranched for over ten years, but that in no way qualifies me to tell you the best way to solve your problem. Allan Nation made a very accurate statement about our Southern pastures...they are borrowed forest land. If I didn't practice any kind of pasture management, my pasture would return to forest. I've brought back pastures that were covered with 1-2" saplings and briar patches. I did it with nothing other than a bush hog. Every plant with a growing point higher than 6" was soon choked out by plants with a growing point below 6". Successful crop growing is nothing more than applying management to give the "crop" the competitive advantage. If you want something off the wall, try spraying young thistle with molasses...I've read that cattle love it! :wink: