Got my bay in R & R

[HAY MAKER]

When my bay went lame a couple weeks ago,I give him Bute and some much needed R & R I been riding him in rough country and racing him abit in some back pasture cowboy races and was doing pretty good till he got gimpy,bute seemed to help some but he really didnt start doing good till I yanked his shoes off,between his shoes and hooves it looked like he had thrush, I aint ever heard of thrush being that high,but he sure had something,maybe a reaction to the shoes as he has never been shod before,anyone ever hear of this ?
Since i pulled his shoes off and trimmed his feet he is back to running/crow hoppin in the mornings.
I think i will try a differnt shoe next time,anyone have luck with the natural balance shoes ?...................good luck

 

[Chickshunt2]

I wonder if he did not have a case of white line disease? I thought thrush was in the frog? not on the outer ring were a shoe would sit? I'm just talking out loud here/guessing but it really does seem like an odd place to get thrush! I did have a horse an OTTB that no matter what shoes I put on him he got white line disease...I finally had to put pads and shoes on him to keep the crud from getting under the shoe and being held next to his hoof. He was fine after that...no problems????? I wonder if putting some of the that epoxy like thrush treatment on the white line area of his hoof before nailing on the shoe would help to keep any fungus from growing under the shoe????? Might be worth a try? ( they didn't have the epoxy like stuff when I had my guy or I would have tried it myself)

 

[the_jersey_lilly_2000]

Here is a website with quite a bit of information on Thrush. Also has a picture of thrush in the "early stages". We've only had one mild case of it, years ago. It was durin our rainy season, with no way to keep a horses feet dry. But we got it cleared up in just a few days, keepin the hoof cleaned out, washin with bleach water.

http://www.dogandhorsecare.com/hoof-thrush

 

[Denny]

I would just quit racing him bet he can't run fast enough to scatter his own poop. :wink:

 

[HAY MAKER]

I wonder if he did not have a case of white line disease? I thought thrush was in the frog? not on the outer ring were a shoe would sit? I'm just talking out loud here/guessing but it really does seem like an odd place to get thrush! I did have a horse an OTTB that no matter what shoes I put on him he got white line disease...I finally had to put pads and shoes on him to keep the crud from getting under the shoe and being held next to his hoof. He was fine after that...no problems????? I wonder if putting some of the that epoxy like thrush treatment on the white line area of his hoof before nailing on the shoe would help to keep any fungus from growing under the shoe????? Might be worth a try? ( they didn't have the epoxy like stuff when I had my guy or I would have tried it myself)

Thanks for the advice, I will find out if it was the metal in the shoes pretty quick,Im gonna put some aluminum shoes on him,pretty quick.........good luck

 

[HAY MAKER]

Here is a website with quite a bit of information on Thrush. Also has a picture of thrush in the "early stages". We've only had one mild case of it, years ago. It was durin our rainy season, with no way to keep a horses feet dry. But we got it cleared up in just a few days, keepin the hoof cleaned out, washin with bleach water.

http://www.dogandhorsecare.com/hoof-thrush

Good informative site,you can bet one thing,the mild case of thrush this horse had,was not from moisture,we dont know what that is around here.............good luck

 

[HAY MAKER]

I would just quit racing him bet he can't run fast enough to scatter his own poop. :wink:

That's what a few ole geezers around here thought,till I stuck their hundred dollar bill in my pocket
He is coming along fine now,I got me a light weight saddle and some aluminum shoes in Bandera the other day,and been crowin a lil bit at the local water hole,problem is these ole geezers that contributed to the cause have big mouths
good luck

 

[Denny]

I would just quit racing him bet he can't run fast enough to scatter his own poop. :wink:

That's what a few ole geezers around here thought,till I stuck their hundred dollar bill in my pocket
He is coming along fine now,I got me a light weight saddle and some aluminum shoes in Bandera the other day,and been crowin a lil bit at the local water hole,problem is these ole geezers that contributed to the cause have big mouths
good luck

I here you on that when I was a kid I had a Rat Tailed Appy mare that was a Granddaughter of Man o' War she could really run but was lame 1/2 of the time of course we were poor so I just had to ride something else until she healed up.

 

[PPRM]

Thrush is a specific disease where you will see black... A lot iof things can cause a pocket that develops from thrush. This pPocket is often known as Gravels as it works out..

I say this in I am wondering if you saw the dark smelly thrush or found a pocket of infection that you were able to clean out...

I have a very thin soled mare who has a very high incidence of these infections. Wish I had someone at home to clean her feet daily.. She has taught me things wish I never had to know, LOL,

PPRM

 

[HAY MAKER]

Thrush is a specific disease where you will see black... A lot iof things can cause a pocket that develops from thrush. This pPocket is often known as Gravels as it works out..

I say this in I am wondering if you saw the dark smelly thrush or found a pocket of infection that you were able to clean out...

I have a very thin soled mare who has a very high incidence of these infections. Wish I had someone at home to clean her feet daily.. She has taught me things wish I never had to know, LOL,

PPRM

No, it didnt get that bad,just that old unmistakable thrush smell,but it had me wondering,so pulled off his shoes and thats where the problem seemed to be,still caint figger it out but unshod,no sign of foot problems,Im gonna leave him unshod for a couple weeks without work,shoe him,ride him and watch him close.
good luck

 

[the_jersey_lilly_2000]

We feed ours biotin supplement in their feed. It's relatively inexpensive. I know it helps their hooves grow stronger, I'm wonderin tho, if it makes the sole thicker and tuffer too.

Here's a good article about biotin supplement.

http://www.athletic-animals.com/hoof.htm

 

[HAY MAKER]

We feed ours biotin supplement in their feed. It's relatively inexpensive. I know it helps their hooves grow stronger, I'm wonderin tho, if it makes the sole thicker and tuffer too.

Here's a good article about biotin supplement.

http://www.athletic-animals.com/hoof.htm

I just been givin mine a good mineral,but was givin mine biotin in the past,always a good idea.............good luck

 

[Faster horses]

A good mineral contains Biotin, so you should be covered there.

I highly doubt that your horse had a reaction to the metal in a shoe. We have shod our horses for years and I have never heard of that one.

Watch those natural balance shoes, Haymaker. Are they rolled in the toe?
If so, they go on a bit different. You might go to this website for some suggestions/ideas: www.hopeforsoundness.com or google Gene Ovnicek and take your pick of the information there.

We happen to be good friends with Gene Ovnicek who has developed the Natural Balance Shoe. In fact, our horses were some of the first ones he used them on.

Good luck!

 

[HAY MAKER]

A good mineral contains Biotin, so you should be covered there.

I highly doubt that your horse had a reaction to the metal in a shoe. We have shod our horses for years and I have never heard of that one.

Watch those natural balance shoes, Haymaker. Are they rolled in the toe?
If so, they go on a bit different. You might go to this website for some suggestions/ideas: www.hopeforsoundness.com or google Gene Ovnicek and take your pick of the information there.

We happen to be good friends with Gene Ovnicek who has developed the Natural Balance Shoe. In fact, our horses were some of the first ones he used them on.

Good luck!

You know.........on the natural balance shoes,there dont seem to be much middle ground,folks like em or they dont,I aint ever used them but seem easy enough to understand,just moves the break over back so the stride is more natural,so they say.
Critics say moving a shoe back and rasping a toe even with the front of the shoe creates a bull nosed toe,this is been a long drawn out argument,I have thought about useing them on long toed horses quite awhile,might keep some of the stumbling thats common in them to a minimum.
good luck

 

[Faster horses]

Oh, yes, there certainly are two schools of thought about them. I only know what I saw and how many horses they helped.

Gene used to shoe a lot of lame horses at our place in W. Montana and
I can say without hesitation that he helped them all. He has done a lot of work in this area by studying the wild horses in the Pryor Mountains.

I'm glad you understand about the 'breakover', Haymaker...it's important. And those people who think a horse needs a long toe, should watch Gene drive a nail through the bottom of the foot through that long toe and have it come out the top. The horse FEELS NOTHING.

This is a huge discussion to get into here, so I won't. For those that are interested you can watch Gene on RFD-TV. He is with Dennis Reis.