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aplusmnt

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Below is three heifers that we are keeping as additions to the herd. Kids might show some at County fair. Which have what it takes to show if any?

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Red Robin said:
You need some photography lessons A+. It looks like I'm looking at them in one of those crazy mirrors.
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Yea I am not very good at taking pictures.

nortexsook said:
Wow, can't say as any of those really look like keepers to me, but to each his own, I guess??
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None are keepers as replacements or none are keepers for showing?
 
Angus Cattle Shower said:
1and 3 look pretty decent!
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By 3 do you mean the third picture down? Because the third picture down is just a rear shot of the heifer in the picture #2. Or did you mean the white faced heifer?
 
Faster horses said:
In the rear shot, #3, that heifer looks odd in the hind legs. Looks swollen or enlarged somehow. Maybe it's just the shot, but it doesn't look right to me. Espcially in front of the hock on the left hind leg.
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I think they're those Maine X show type cattle- bred to have them post legs... I've never seen one yet that I really like...Never could figure out who the judges are that like them...But then I always thought teaching a good horse to run around with its head barely off the ground in a fake rocking horse lope for western pleasure showing was idiotic too.... :roll:
 
The small heifer #2 and #3 is a Maine cross she is super hairy even on the legs. Not sure put think she is probably around 3/4 Maine 1/4 Angus.

The top picture is 7/8 Angus and 1/8 Maine

The white face is 1/4 Simmental, 5/8 Angus and 1/8 Maine
 
Faster horses said:
In the rear shot, #3, that heifer looks odd in the hind legs. Looks swollen or enlarged somehow. Maybe it's just the shot, but it doesn't look right to me. Espcially in front of the hock on the left hind leg.
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Faster Horses...it does look funky, but I actually think it's all the "wool" these apparently Maine cross heifers have.

Aplus...I'm sure you thought Red Robin was being a bit hard on you...I don't think he was intentionally doing so, just providing a "scotch" of constructive criticism. See, I think probably all the heifers have some good, show qualities, and even replacement heifer qualities, but they for the most part look like dinks in the pictures, which I highly doubt they are.

Please, please, please, get some better pics of them! It looks like they're fairly confined, and fairly gentle, so getting a good pic shouldn't be too hard. Are they broke to lead? If so, take a pic of them on the halter. Here are two good pics, the second of which is exceptional, taken by lazy ace...the second is how a heifer should probably look from the side. (I'm not bragging 'cause he's my hubby, but cause they are good pics, you have to take a lot of bad ones to get a good one...and he did!)

http://cattletoday.com/forum/about27302.html

Rear view pics should have the cattle with their feet square, unlike a side pic that should have the near leg forward (by the way this holds true for showmanship too!) If the legs are offset in a rearview, the cattle look unbalanced.

If you want a fairly true observation of the gals, shear some of that fur off...down to a 1/4 inch or so...if they look like they have some natural muscle (butterfly shape to their top, shape out of their hip that carries down to their round, shape to their forearms,) depth, width and spring of rib, are feminine fronted, and have a strong top, then you'll have something. I am sure that you 'bout fell out of your chair when I told you to shear them, but if you first show is later in the spring, it'll all grow back.

Anyway, I think they have some good qualities, display them as such.

I'll bail off my soapbox now...

Cheers---

TTB :wink:
 
Now those are some heifers. I like #2.

I was a little too smart in my original reply. I admit to being like Sgt Schultz (I Know NUUTHING) about show cattle. I meant as replacement heifers, but it could be just the pictures.
 
They look a little lighter muscled than the maine crosses that people run around here for the show ring but that could be in the pictures. They remind me a lot of the heifer calves I was selling 3-4 years ago when we were using maine bulls. Dang post legs and buck knees got to be a bit agravating and I don't have any maine blood left on the place (Well, that's not true, still got ship the last few steers from last year but they are all lower percentage Maine than we used to have)... I tended to not like the cross for replacements if it was much past 1/2 Maine blood as the darn legs just bugged me (That and how bushy the calves got) and the size of some of those gals was a bit much (They would get stuck in my alleyway during scour shots, lol) but they did for the most part have nice udders and nice calves.

Neighbor runs a bunch of them. Really likes them and does well in the club calf market.. I have seen a few bulls that were pretty nice market steer producers but now adays so many are the "show" style that I just am reluctant to go down that road again... The extra pounds were nice however at sales time.... Oh well, maybe I'll get some Chars or Gelbviehs next year when I have to start replacing bulls again...
 
I bet they are really nice hiefers :nod: The pictures are funny,like off balance or something,to be honest I always like a Maine cross but hey looks like I may be in a minority,no accountin for some peoples taste :P
 
Thanks for the replies, I really do not get offended for opinions on the cattle or my pictures. I would rather someone tell me as they see them than tickle my ears.

The mostly Angus and the white face either one will be show heifers. The first one 7/8 Angus would probably work OK if I could show her in Angus class at our County but she does not have the power it takes to compete in a cross bred class. The Simmental one just is not fancy enough in lots of areas. I do think both these will make good cows though, they come from good mothers and their breeding was Maternal.

The little heifer has the power to either work as a feeder heifer for us or a show heifer in the Cross class. In the pic she has just turned 5 and been weaned one week. She is not halter broke yet, and has hair like you can not even see in the photo. I do not think she is straight legged, if you look in the pic you can see were the curvature is and the shadow of her other leg is. She walks good and takes big steps. Just some really bad photo's of her. I will post some pictures in future to see opinions on how she progressed.
 
Aplus...I have to apologize for being so rough on your pics.

Those heifers have a ton of hair, if you can keep in going all summer, you should have a a big fluffy heifer, that I'm betting will do well! I do think they have some potential. You know the funny thing is, is that cattle change so much---this time of year our coming yearling bulls almost look like different critters week to week, and the same hold true for our heifers.

Good luck, and I look forward to the next set of pics! Hey, how about a pic of your skunk pig you mentioned in Coffee Shop? I enjoy looking at pig pics too. I bet he/she eats good too!

Cheers---

TTB :wink:
 
I thought I read somewhere in one of the Semen catalogs where they actually breed specially to get that longer fluffy hair for those show cattle...I don't know anything about show cows, but I know some of the pictures I've seen of some of the class winners at these big shows and it looks like they were crossed with a big poodle.... :lol:
 
Not great pictures but a few months on show rations and I'm sure a judge would find them to be just what he likes-cattle showing is a social event to network with other cattle breeders it has absolutely NOTHING to do with identifying superior genetics or worthiness in a commercial enviroment. Like I said cattle shows like Agribition or denver are great places to meet and greet but I wouldn't make any decisions on my breeding programs from the results there. If Aplus likes to show cattle those heifers are probably just the ticket-if those cattle work there and make him his living that's all that really matters.
 

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