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Hillary Clinton calls for more food safety funding, ban on downer cattle slaughter

Following the massive Hallmark/Westland Meat Packing Co. beef recall, Hillary Clinton listed a series of food safety actions she would take as president, including a 50 percent increase in USDA's food safety budget and a ban on slaughtering downer cattle.

In a statement on her campaign Web site, Clinton said she would:

Conduct an immediate audit of the nation's food safety systems to locate weaknesses and gaps


Increase USDA food safety funding by more than 50 percent so that inspectors have the resources and staffing they need to do their jobs

Move toward a single Food Safety Administration responsible for all food products

Give USDA and FDA mandatory recall authority and direct them to create a national tracing system to determine the origin of tainted food

Find, prosecute and punish food production facilities that abuse animals and allow unsafe food to enter the food supply

Permanently ban the slaughter of downed animals
Clinton noted that 12 of the 15 cases of bovine spongiform encephalopathy in North America were linked to downed animals; downed animals were three times more likely to carry E. coli; and, according to one analysis, 14 percent of downed cows carried salmonella.

I thought Sadhusker, OVI and crew told us that the US had banned the slaughter of downed animals but the possible next President of the US of A says otherwise. Who to believe?

With the potential future US President now focusing on beef safety it looks like PETA and the anti-meat groups may have found an ally much better than R-Klan. For the past 5 years some have claimed that the negative smear campaign that R-Klan had employed against Canada would backfire and now it looks like it's about to happen.
 
I thought Sadhusker, OVI and crew told us that the US had banned the slaughter of downed animals but the possible next President of the US of A says otherwise. Who to believe?

There is certainly a ban on downers here.

I had a heifer to become paralyzed during an abnormal presentation last week and none of the local abbatoirs will take it if it's down.

I even e-mailed the State Vet to see if I could get an exemption.

Heres the response:

"Dear Mike,

Per Dr. Robert Barlow, Director of the Alabama Meat and Poultry Inspection Program, the answer to your question is no.

Per USDA/FSIS Final Rule (9-13-07), regarding the disposition of non-ambulatory cattle: "All non-ambulatory cattle offered for slaughter, are considered adulterated and must be condemned".



If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact Dr. Barlow at 334-240-7210."


This is taking the downer thing a little too far. This heifer was healthy before her ordeal and I was going to feed my family!!!!! :roll:
 
per said:
Condemned and of course Not Tested. Mike how cold is it there. Could you do her yourself?

Not cold enough to hang her and wait 3-4 weeks for the test results and they won't allow her to hang at the slaughter facility.

Got a call in to a guy south of me that has a cooler and grinder for deer.

Figure I could take her and grind her the same day if the guy will call me back.

It's not a state inspected facility.

Was in the 30's last night but will be in the high 60's today. :shock:
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From the USDA Rules and Regs:

Revised regulatory requirements. Because they present a risk of
introducing the BSE agent into the human food supply, FSIS has
determined that the carcasses of non-ambulatory disabled cattle are
unfit for human food under section 1(m)(3) of the FMIA and that all
non-ambulatory disabled cattle that are presented for slaughter should
be condemned. Therefore, FSIS is amending its ante-mortem inspection
regulations to require the condemnation of non-ambulatory disabled
cattle presented for slaughter.
Specifically, FSIS is amending the regulations that prescribe
requirements for ``U.S. Suspect'' livestock in 9 CFR 309.2 by replacing
the reference to ``animals commonly termed `downers' ' in Sec.
309.2(b) with the term ``non-ambulatory disabled livestock.'' FSIS is
making this modification because there is currently no regulatory
definition of ``downer'' and the Agency believes that the term ``non-
ambulatory disabled'' more accurately describes the cattle that it
believes should be prohibited for human food. ``Non-ambulatory disabled
livestock'' is defined as livestock that cannot rise from a recumbent
position or that cannot walk, including, but not limited to, those with
broken appendages, severed tendons or ligaments, nerve paralysis,
fractured vertebral column, or metabolic conditions. Thus, this
definition includes livestock that are non-ambulatory due to an acute
injury in route to the slaughter facility, such as a broken leg, as
well as livestock that are non-ambulatory due to an underlying
pathological condition.
FSIS is excluding all non-ambulatory disabled cattle from the human
food supply, regardless of the reason for their non-ambulatory status
or the time at which they became non-ambulatory. Thus, if an animal
becomes non-ambulatory in route to the establishment due to an acute
injury, it must be humanely removed from the truck, humanely
euthanized, and the carcass properly disposed of. Likewise, cattle that
become non-ambulatory on the establishment premises, such as an animal
that breaks its leg as it is unloaded from the truck, are also required
to be humanely moved, humanely euthanized, and the carcass properly
disposed of.
FSIS is also amending the regulations that prescribe requirements
for dead, dying, disabled, or diseased and similar livestock in 9 CFR
309.3 to require that non-ambulatory disabled cattle be condemned and
disposed of in accordance with 9 CFR 309.13. Unless another provision
in part 309 applies, under Sec. 309.13, condemned livestock must be
killed by the establishment, if
 
The stupidity of zero tolerance laws!!!!!

A custom processor, like the one you are talking to, should be able to help you out. Just make sure there are no Humane Society members there disguised as workers!! :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Bill said:
Hillary Clinton calls for more food safety funding, ban on downer cattle slaughter

Following the massive Hallmark/Westland Meat Packing Co. beef recall, Hillary Clinton listed a series of food safety actions she would take as president, including a 50 percent increase in USDA's food safety budget and a ban on slaughtering downer cattle.

In a statement on her campaign Web site, Clinton said she would:

Conduct an immediate audit of the nation's food safety systems to locate weaknesses and gaps


Increase USDA food safety funding by more than 50 percent so that inspectors have the resources and staffing they need to do their jobs

Move toward a single Food Safety Administration responsible for all food products

Give USDA and FDA mandatory recall authority and direct them to create a national tracing system to determine the origin of tainted food

Find, prosecute and punish food production facilities that abuse animals and allow unsafe food to enter the food supply

Permanently ban the slaughter of downed animals
Clinton noted that 12 of the 15 cases of bovine spongiform encephalopathy in North America were linked to downed animals; downed animals were three times more likely to carry E. coli; and, according to one analysis, 14 percent of downed cows carried salmonella.

I thought Sadhusker, OVI and crew told us that the US had banned the slaughter of downed animals but the possible next President of the US of A says otherwise. Who to believe?

With the potential future US President now focusing on beef safety it looks like PETA and the anti-meat groups may have found an ally much better than R-Klan. For the past 5 years some have claimed that the negative smear campaign that R-Klan had employed against Canada would backfire and now it looks like it's about to happen.



bill,

that ban on downers is kinda like that ban on mad cow feed i.e. ruminant to ruminant feed ban of 8/4/97, nothing but ink on paper. :disagree:



Audit Report

Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service

Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) Surveillance Program - Phase II

and

Food Safety and Inspection Service

Controls Over BSE Sampling, Specified Risk Materials, and Advanced Meat
Recovery Products - Phase III

Report No. 50601-10-KC January 2006

Finding 2 Inherent Challenges in Identifying and Testing High-Risk Cattle
Still Remain

Our prior report identified a number of inherent problems in identifying and
testing high-risk cattle. We reported that the challenges in identifying the
universe of high-risk cattle, as well as the need to design procedures to
obtain an appropriate representation of samples, was critical to the success
of the BSE surveillance program. The surveillance program was designed to
target nonambulatory cattle, cattle showing signs of CNS disease (including
cattle testing negative for rabies), cattle showing signs not inconsistent
with BSE, and dead cattle. Although APHIS designed procedures to ensure FSIS
condemned cattle were sampled and made a concerted effort for outreach to
obtain targeted samples, industry practices not considered in the design of
the surveillance program reduced assurance that targeted animals were tested
for BSE.




USDA/OIG-A/50601-10-KC Page 27

observe these animals ante mortem when possible to assure the animals from
the target population are ultimately sampled and the clinical signs
evaluated.



snip...



http://www.usda.gov/oig/webdocs/50601-10-KC.pdf



Bill said:
Hillary Clinton calls for more food safety funding, ban on downer cattle slaughter

With the potential future US President now focusing on beef safety it looks like PETA and the anti-meat groups may have found an ally much better than R-Klan. For the past 5 years some have claimed that the negative smear campaign that R-Klan had employed against Canada would backfire and now it looks like it's about to happen.



bill, i don't think you have anything to worry about there. :cry: .........tss



MAD COW LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON 1ST LADY JULY 6, 2000


> Hillary Clinton calls for more food safety funding,

> ban on downer cattle slaughter


this is very difficult for me, truth hurts, facts are facts, BUT, Hillary had her chance to fix things, and i did not even get a reply in the year 2000, and none since, and this is just a short part of what i sent to them back then, 1st Lady Hillary Clinton, to her husband, then President Bill Clinton, Vice President Al Gore, and his Wife, plus every senator and congressman back then, including McCain, Waxman, and the whole bunch (i can, but did not post those emails, or the other emails from back then, the list of senators and congressmen would be too long). i assure you it was a bipartisan effort on my part. but yet, here in 2008, it's the same, lame, BSe. SO, i am not holding my breath for either party to jump up and change anything related to mad cow disease i.e. TSE. nothing much will change. we have more important things to worry about in the halls of Congress, like overpaid baseball players, and the drugs they are on. big ag and trade trumps human and animal health, the bse mrr policy says so, and that was on gw's watch. ...tss


Anonymous wrote ;


>>> snip...These problems did not happen over night. Things have gone downhill since the advent of HACCP. Hillary should remember that. She was in the whitehouse then. Why didn't she and Bill do the things she says she intends to do at that time? <<<


amen, BSE/TSE problems have been going on for 8 years (especially the secrecy), and they were going on before that. but that damn HACCP was not designed for cattle and a failed surveillance and feed system, it was designed for astronauts, and a system far more absolute than that of the USDA/FDA et al. (that's what the HACCP was originally designed for, NASA). not an agency that it is heavily industry laden with folks that are more worried about the almighty dollar than that of human and animal health. again, letting the wolf guard the henhouse, and you have no eggs, or hens to produce them. ...tss


> Subject: RESEARCH & FUNDING FOR HUMAN/ANIMAL TSE'S... [part 1]
> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 12:36:36 -0700
> From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr." <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]., [email protected],
> [email protected]., [email protected].,
> [email protected].
>
> Dear Mr. Glickman,
>
> could you please tell me, why certain people in your department
> (cutlipp, caughey, o'rourke, just to name a few)
> would be willing to hinder the research of certain people?
>
> this is well known publicly (around the globe), that this is what
> these people are doing, so why do _you_ allow this?
>
> why would your people NOT want a BSE test in the U.S.?
>
> why slow this research down?
>
> (i know the answer to that, but would like to hear it from you,
> but really don't expect a reply. hell, i cannot even get a reply
> from my state reps. on this issue, but i promise you, i am going
> to light a fire, that will be seen around the globe).
>
> why is it, all this money can go for all sorts of other things,
> but very very little for research of human/animal TSE's?
>
> it's not going away, it's only going to spread...
>
> kind regards,
> Terry S. Singeltary SR.
>
> THIS IS A WORLD PROBLEM...TSS



From: Terry S. Singeltary Sr. [[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:03 PM
To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected].;

BSE-L Subject: Docket No. 2003N-0312 Animal Feed Safety System [TSS SUBMISSION TO DOCKET 2003N-0312]

Greetings FDA, my name is Terry S. Singeltary Sr., i lost my mother to hvCJD (Heidenhain Variant Creutzfeldt Jakob Disease). i would kindly like to comment on the proposed HACCP method of detecting and or preventing TSEs in the human/animal feed supply. it seems to me by implementing something that was designed for Astronauts instead of cattle, something that the GAO has already stated is terribly flawed (HACCP), ...


http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dockets/03n0312/03N-0312_emc-000001.txt


BSE; MRR; IMPORTATION OF LIVE BOVINES AND PRODUCTS DERIVED FROM BOVINES [Docket No. APHIS-2006-0041] RIN 0579-AC01 Date: January 9, 2007 at 9:08 am PST

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocumentDetail&o=09000064801f3412


APHIS-2006-0041-0006 TSE advisory committee for the meeting December 15, 2006


http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/ContentViewer?objectId=09000064801f3413&disposition=attachment&contentType=msw8


[Docket No. FSIS-2006-0011] FSIS Harvard Risk Assessment of Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE)


http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/Comments/2006-0011/2006-0011-1.pdf


[Docket No. 03-025IFA] FSIS Prohibition of the Use of Specified Risk Materials for Human Food and Requirement for the Disposition of Non-Ambulatory Disabled Cattle 03-025IFA 03-025IFA-2 Terry S. Singeltary


http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/Comments/03-025IFA/03-025IFA-2.pdf


HACCP

http://www.haccpforexcellence.com/


tss

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2/20/2008 6:17 PM Posted By: Terry Singeltary


http://meatingplace.com/MembersOnly/webNews/details.aspx?item=19861


TSS
 
This former alumus of Hillary's seems to think, like Bill was, Hillary is in the pockets of Big Business.....


http://salonesoterica.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/open-letter-to-hillary-clinton-from-a-wellesley-college-alumnus/
 
Find, prosecute and punish food production facilities that abuse animals and allow unsafe food to enter the food supply

Need to discern that abused animals ( this whole thing is just awful) are not unsafe to eat. It is an animal husbandry problem not a safety problem. The meat recall was a class II not a class I!
 

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