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Most the rest of the world sees a black cloud of doubt hanging over the US herd and you are still hiding behind the lies and blameing Canada aren't you? The rest of the world closed exports to you because of one Canadian cow but if they trusted your beef system they would be taking US beef now wouldn't they. They don't trust your beef because that one Canadian cow was in YOUR food chain and they know just how many more animals were imported that you can't find. In the OIE report it states that other infected cattle could have come in to the US in the past and since they weren't detected, infected material was probably rendered and fed back to cattle and amplified within the US herd. They also recommended that the US cease the investigation for these animals as without a tracking system the likelyhood of finding them all is nil. The USDA took that advice but the OIE also said to redirect resources into the planning, implementation and enforcement of an extented, targeted, surveillance program and other measures to protest human and animal health. Does the USDA really think that a one time shot testing of 250,000 head of slaughter cattle is what the OIE ment by an EXTENDED, TARGETED surveillance program. The targeted animals that were recommended to the US were "The population with the highest risk for BSE have been shown to be those exhibiting signs compatible with BSE(passive surveillance), fallen stock(cattle that die on the farm and during transport), and cattle for emergency slaughter older than 30 months, which includes all catagories of downers cows. The OIE said a one year programm could achieve the goal but they recommended it with the idea that the USDA would be testing all downers not the very small percentage of slaughter cattle that the US is testing.
Did you forget the OIE rule that says you can't put restriction on a importing country that you yourself don't practice on your domestic herd?
How do you think the US would react if Canada did go to 100% testing? The USDA doesn't want to 100% test and that is why they are not telling Canada we have to. If the US had to go to 100% testing they couldn't pick and choose which animals were to slip by without a test like they have in the past.
Again with the Protect the US cattle herd.and US consumers Tell us just how is the US herd and consumers put in danger Oldtimer if the US slaughter plants and feed mills comply to the rules that are in place to protect them. Removal of the SRM removes risk to consumers and feed bans were implemented to protect the US herd. SO how can either be protected further by not allowing importing cattle of any age in for slaughter in your plants. Are you telling us the the US plants (slaughter and feed) are not compliant with the rules? And if they aren't what is protecting the US herd and US consumers from the animals that the rest of the world knows exsist in the US herd. :???:
By the Way Oldtimer just how many years do you think it will take and do you think the USDA are willing to live with the same time frame if/when BSE is found in the US herd? How many years do you think the USDA will 100% test to prove to your trading partners that the US beef isn't totally comtaminated when they won't even test your downers now? Remember what you ask for the USDA will have to abide by when BSE is found there.

<blockquote data-quote="Tam" data-source="post: 1879" data-attributes="member: 25">Most the rest of the world sees a black cloud of doubt hanging over the US herd and&nbsp; you are still hiding behind the lies and blameing Canada aren&#039;t you? The rest of the world&nbsp; closed exports to you because of one Canadian cow&nbsp; but if they trusted your beef system they would be taking US beef now wouldn&#039;t they. They don&#039;t trust your beef because&nbsp; that one Canadian cow was in YOUR food chain&nbsp; and they know just how many more animals were imported that you can&#039;t find.&nbsp; In the OIE report it states that other infected cattle could have come in to the US&nbsp; in the past&nbsp; and since they weren&#039;t detected, infected material was probably rendered and fed back to cattle and amplified within the US herd.&nbsp; They also recommended that the US cease the investigation for these animals as without a tracking system the likelyhood of finding them all is nil. The USDA took that advice but the OIE also said to redirect resources into the planning, implementation and enforcement of an extented, targeted, surveillance program and other measures to protest human and animal health. Does the USDA&nbsp; really think that a one time shot testing of 250,000 head of slaughter cattle is what the OIE ment by an EXTENDED, TARGETED surveillance program. The targeted animals that were recommended to the US were &quot;The population with the highest risk for BSE have been shown to be those exhibiting signs compatible with BSE(passive surveillance), fallen stock(cattle that die on the farm and during transport), and cattle for emergency slaughter older than 30 months, which includes all catagories of downers cows.&nbsp; The OIE said a one year programm could achieve the goal but they recommended it with the idea that the USDA would be testing all downers not the very small percentage of slaughter cattle that the US is testing. &nbsp;Did you forget the OIE rule that says you can&#039;t put restriction on a importing country that you yourself don&#039;t practice on your domestic herd?&nbsp; How do you think the US would react if Canada did go to 100% testing? The USDA doesn&#039;t want to 100% test and that is why they are not telling Canada we have to. If the US had to go to 100% testing they couldn&#039;t pick and choose which animals were to slip by without a test like they have in the past. Again with the Protect the US cattle herd.and US consumers&nbsp; Tell us just how is the US herd and consumers put in danger Oldtimer if the US slaughter plants and feed mills comply to the rules that are in place to protect them. Removal of the SRM&nbsp; removes risk to consumers&nbsp; and feed bans were implemented to protect the US herd. SO how can either be protected further by not allowing importing cattle of any age in for slaughter in your plants.&nbsp; Are you telling us the the US plants (slaughter and feed) are not compliant with the rules? And if they aren&#039;t what is protecting the US herd and US consumers from the animals that the rest of the world&nbsp; knows&nbsp; exsist in the US herd.&nbsp; :???: By the Way Oldtimer just how many years do you think it will take and do you think the USDA are&nbsp; willing to live with the same time frame if/when BSE is found in the US herd? How many years do you think the USDA will 100% test to prove to your trading partners that the US beef isn&#039;t totally comtaminated when they won&#039;t even test your downers now? Remember what you ask for the USDA will have to abide by when BSE is found there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tam, post: 1879, member: 25"] Most the rest of the world sees a black cloud of doubt hanging over the US herd and you are still hiding behind the lies and blameing Canada aren't you? The rest of the world closed exports to you because of one Canadian cow but if they trusted your beef system they would be taking US beef now wouldn't they. They don't trust your beef because that one Canadian cow was in YOUR food chain and they know just how many more animals were imported that you can't find. In the OIE report it states that other infected cattle could have come in to the US in the past and since they weren't detected, infected material was probably rendered and fed back to cattle and amplified within the US herd. They also recommended that the US cease the investigation for these animals as without a tracking system the likelyhood of finding them all is nil. The USDA took that advice but the OIE also said to redirect resources into the planning, implementation and enforcement of an extented, targeted, surveillance program and other measures to protest human and animal health. Does the USDA really think that a one time shot testing of 250,000 head of slaughter cattle is what the OIE ment by an EXTENDED, TARGETED surveillance program. The targeted animals that were recommended to the US were "The population with the highest risk for BSE have been shown to be those exhibiting signs compatible with BSE(passive surveillance), fallen stock(cattle that die on the farm and during transport), and cattle for emergency slaughter older than 30 months, which includes all catagories of downers cows. The OIE said a one year programm could achieve the goal but they recommended it with the idea that the USDA would be testing all downers not the very small percentage of slaughter cattle that the US is testing. Did you forget the OIE rule that says you can't put restriction on a importing country that you yourself don't practice on your domestic herd? How do you think the US would react if Canada did go to 100% testing? The USDA doesn't want to 100% test and that is why they are not telling Canada we have to. If the US had to go to 100% testing they couldn't pick and choose which animals were to slip by without a test like they have in the past. Again with the Protect the US cattle herd.and US consumers Tell us just how is the US herd and consumers put in danger Oldtimer if the US slaughter plants and feed mills comply to the rules that are in place to protect them. Removal of the SRM removes risk to consumers and feed bans were implemented to protect the US herd. SO how can either be protected further by not allowing importing cattle of any age in for slaughter in your plants. Are you telling us the the US plants (slaughter and feed) are not compliant with the rules? And if they aren't what is protecting the US herd and US consumers from the animals that the rest of the world knows exsist in the US herd. :???: By the Way Oldtimer just how many years do you think it will take and do you think the USDA are willing to live with the same time frame if/when BSE is found in the US herd? How many years do you think the USDA will 100% test to prove to your trading partners that the US beef isn't totally comtaminated when they won't even test your downers now? Remember what you ask for the USDA will have to abide by when BSE is found there. [/QUOTE]

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