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ANGUS327

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Has anybody brought any Ivermectin up from the States lately? Are there any hassles at the border? Was hoping to go down to Havre Montana next week if it's worth it.
 
Angus327
It is very much worth the trip for the generic brands. The sale price at Big R Ranch Supply was $44.95 usd for a 5 litre jug. You must have a vet or brand inspector signed letter stating how many animals you run to bring it back across the line. Also dont forget to take your GST #. We made a Havre run about a month ago and saved alot of money on the wire mesh panels, pasture gates, and a 2w crowding tub. Not everything is cheaper so it is good to take flyers from your local UFA or co-op for reference.
 
elwapo said:
Angus327
It is very much worth the trip for the generic brands. The sale price at Big R Ranch Supply was $44.95 usd for a 5 litre jug. You must have a vet or brand inspector signed letter stating how many animals you run to bring it back across the line. Also dont forget to take your GST #. We made a Havre run about a month ago and saved alot of money on the wire mesh panels, pasture gates, and a 2w crowding tub. Not everything is cheaper so it is good to take flyers from your local UFA or co-op for reference.
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I hope you don't think I am picking on you, elwapo, but you are like me and most folks that I know. When it comes to our pocketbooks, most people are not as "patriotic" as they proclaim. :wink:

This brings to mind the question, is COOL as important and does it matter as much as some folks would have us believe? Personally, I think not.
 
ANGUS327 said:
Has anybody brought any Ivermectin up from the States lately? Are there any hassles at the border? Was hoping to go down to Havre Montana next week if it's worth it.
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I don't know either but let us know the price when you find out.Herd health last month I paid $245.00 for a bottle of it. :(

I think it was about $5.00 cheaper this year :roll: .
 
Soapweed
Most of what we purchase here in Canada is made in America or sold by American owned companies so what does it matter if I buy Ivomec in Medicine Hat made by the American pharmacutical giant Merial or some off brand in Havre Montana? They say (merial reps) that it is an inferior product but I can afford to do the same animal 4 times with the generic and still be ahead.
With $500 calves up here this year I have to cut costs wherever I can.
 
elwapo said:
Soapweed
Most of what we purchase here in Canada is made in America or sold by American owned companies so what does it matter if I buy Ivomec in Medicine Hat made by the American pharmacutical giant Merial or some off brand in Havre Montana? They say (merial reps) that it is an inferior product but I can afford to do the same animal 4 times with the generic and still be ahead.
With $500 calves up here this year I have to cut costs wherever I can.
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I agree wholeheartedly. That is my point. I think if we are honest with ourselves, we all buy as cheaply as we can. This is especially true in perishable products such as food, and why I don't think COOL will amount to a hill of beans. People will still buy as cheaply as possible. This will become even more prevelant as the fuel that we need gets higher and higher.
 
I support COOL but not to exclude any one - - - I tag every animal that comes thru my facility with a tag that gives my name, address and phone number - - - I do this with pride as I feel I do a good job with my animals and want my customers to remember and come back.

I hope COOL will start people thinking " I'M GOING TO BE RESPONCIBLE FOR WHAT I PUT IN THE FOOD CHAIN" and hopefully most will hold themselves to a higher standard.

I feel if they don't want to mark their product they might be trying to hide something.
 
George said:
I support COOL but not to exclude any one - - - I tag every animal that comes thru my facility with a tag that gives my name, address and phone number - - - I do this with pride as I feel I do a good job with my animals and want my customers to remember and come back.

I hope COOL will start people thinking " I'M GOING TO BE RESPONCIBLE FOR WHAT I PUT IN THE FOOD CHAIN" and hopefully most will hold themselves to a higher standard.

I feel if they don't want to mark their product they might be trying to hide something.
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George it looks like your COOL is "Cowboy Of Origin Labeling"
That's not what R-CALF wants. They want everybody else to "COOL" but not them selves. :)
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
George said:
I support COOL but not to exclude any one - - - I tag every animal that comes thru my facility with a tag that gives my name, address and phone number - - - I do this with pride as I feel I do a good job with my animals and want my customers to remember and come back.

I hope COOL will start people thinking " I'M GOING TO BE RESPONCIBLE FOR WHAT I PUT IN THE FOOD CHAIN" and hopefully most will hold themselves to a higher standard.

I feel if they don't want to mark their product they might be trying to hide something.
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George it looks like your COOL is "Cowboy Of Origin Labeling"
That's not what R-CALF wants. They want everybody else to "COOL" but not them selves. :)
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I'll bet most R-CALF members do more ID ing and COOLing as you put it than the average cattle producer-- As a great number of them besides using ear tags and numbering systems come from the states that use PERMANENT ID (hot iron brands)...All R-CALF has opposed is a government mandated ID- and/or a government mandated type of ID...
Some folks have a very workable ID system, that even gives 3rd and 4th party verification (brand inspector and vet)- that has worked for over 100 years...Why Fix what Ain't Broke :???:
 
Soapweed
I think we are on the same page with this one.
Lets call a spade a spade........cool is nothing more or less than a trade barrier, an attempt to raise the cost of incoming product. There is no legislative requirement to stamp "Made in America" on a package of hamburger.
 
elwapo said:
Soapweed
I think we are on the same page with this one.
Lets call a spade a spade........cool is nothing more or less than a trade barrier, an attempt to raise the cost of incoming product. There is no legislative requirement to stamp "Made in America" on a package of hamburger.
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And maybe if a few more American consumers had or had had the opportunity to buy "Made in America"-- our US economy wouldn't be sliding down the sewer right now.....Instead they were DEFRAUDED by false labeling of imports- and what they thought they were buying as safe US product wasn't......

But the American consumer is awakening !!!!

And this Ivermectin issue is just another example that the highly touted NAFTA is not free trade--but government managed trade which is highly influenced by the lobbying powers of the the petrochemical, pharmaceutical, Packing, and other corporate industries-- To their benefit....
Other examples are prescription drugs, weed sprays, cattle vaccines....

Government-managed trade, not free trade

Milton Friedman, economic advisor to Presidents Nixon and Reagan has argued that the North American Free Trade Agreement is actually not a "free trade" agreement, but rather is government managed trade. The essence of this criticism is that such trade agreements don't promote free trade, they inhibit it by implementing another level of bureaucracy on top of national governments. This can not only have a detrimental effect on trade, it results in an erosion of sovereignty for all nations involved and causes citizens and governments to be bound by decisions made by an unelected international body.
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Go for it oldtimer. NAFTA is not preventing you one little bit from labeling your product. You can trade your keyboard in for a label maker and save america.
 
I've allway's used the Generic's.Raiseing a family of 6 children you need to shop around.I have used generic Ivomec and it works fine.I also spray my no-name brand Round-up ready corn with the generic glyfosate and apply it at 1/2 rate and it works just fine.My wife and our whole family is going to place very close attention to the price more than where the product came from.
 
You might find this interesting elwapo.

http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/product_of_canada_eh/

Keep scrolling down for more on that page for more information.
 
I do brand any animal over one year of age that stays here - - - In Indiana you cannot brand with a normal G so I have a backwords GWK branded on the left hip in 3" letters but many people would not know how to trace that or take the time so I have the ears tags with name , address and phone number on the back.

I had one lost hiefer ( gone 3 months ) returned due to the tags and the State police were able to trace 15 fat calves ( 1200# @) when they were stolen by the brands and tags - - - the thief did not bother to even remove the tags when he sold them through the Indianapolis stock yards.

I still swear there were 16 head gone but he must have had one butchered or sold it private treaty but the financial loss on one was much better than 16 - - - When they arressted the thief it was the Production Credit loan officer - - - boy did that cause a stink when the FBI got involved.
 

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