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Katrina,

This is not about the bet. This is about Sandman calling me a liar with no proof to back that allegation. People like Sandman that are naturally deceptive do not take it as personally when someone calls them a liar because they are probably used to it. Someone like myself that cares deeply about the truth and bases his decisions on facts rather than a compelling need to blame takes it very personally. I admitted to being wrong about calendar year 2004. I have no problems with that. If you remember, nobody proved me wrong, I proved myself wrong. I willingly admitted it and paid up. Sandman, AS ALWAYS, contributed absolutely nothing to proving his position one way or another other than challenging me to prove my position by calling me a liar. Par for his typical deceptive slithering ways.

The bet is not the issue. The issue is about my original statement for the entire period of time when the border was closed that Sandman called a lie and wants me to prove that it isn't a lie. The issue is also about Sandman's hypocrisy for accepting Agman's word when it supported his bias then demanding proof when it didn't. Sandhusker is a complete phony.

Sandman says that if someone from Cody, NE calls someone a liar, they better be able to back it. Sandman didn't back it and he won't back it because he has nothing to support his position either way. That's why he focuses on me proving that I didn't lie.

Well if you now need numbers for calendar year 2004 as proof, WHY DID YOU ACCEPT THE MONEY FOR THE BET??? You took Agman and I at our word on that and thanked Agman for his honesty but now you demand proof for the entire time period when the border was closed. Why the double standard?

TALK ABOUT BEING A HYPOCRITE!

Agman said his data supported my position that Tyson's Boise and Pasco plants lost more money than Lakeside made while the border was closed. Why didn't you ask for proof of calendar year 2004? Instead, you thanked him for his honesty. I'll tell you why you didn't ask for proof, because you don't need proof when it supports your bias and means you would win the bet. Yet you contradcit your standards by demanding nothing short of a financial statement from these plants for the period of time when the border was closed.

WHY DIDN'T YOU ASK FOR AGMAN'S PROOF FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2004???? YOU THANKED HIM FOR HIS HONESTY AND GLOATED IN A VICTORY YOU CONTRIBUTED NOTHING TO. WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD FOR THE ENTIRE PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THE BORDER WAS CLOSED?????

Sandman keeps diverting that issue.

At least you have your little packer blaming brethren like Kindergarten, OCM, Hayseed, and Randy Kaiser as your little support group. They can relate because they don't have any intergrity either.

This is very simple, if I lied, WHERE IS THE PROOF SANDMAN????

The burden of proof is not on me to prove that I didn't lie, the burden of proof is on you to prove that I did but you don't back anything.

Sandman won't back his allegation that I lied because he can't yet he takes Agman at his word when it supports his bias. Sandman is a complete phony in every sense of the word.

~SH~

<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 51757">Katrina,This is not about the bet.&nbsp; This is about Sandman calling me a liar with no proof to back that allegation. People like Sandman that are naturally deceptive do not take it as personally when someone calls them a liar because they are probably used to it.&nbsp; Someone like myself that cares deeply about the truth and bases his decisions on facts rather than a compelling need to blame takes it very personally.&nbsp; I admitted to being wrong about calendar year 2004.&nbsp; I have no problems with that.&nbsp; If you remember, nobody proved me wrong, I proved myself wrong.&nbsp; I willingly admitted it and paid up.&nbsp; Sandman, AS ALWAYS, contributed absolutely nothing to proving his position one way or another other than challenging me to prove my position by calling me a liar.&nbsp; Par for his typical deceptive slithering ways.&nbsp; The bet is not the issue.&nbsp; The issue is about my original statement for the entire period of time when the border was closed that Sandman called a lie and wants me to prove that it isn&#039;t a lie.&nbsp; The issue is also about Sandman&#039;s hypocrisy for accepting Agman&#039;s word when it supported his bias then demanding proof when it didn&#039;t.&nbsp; Sandhusker is a complete phony.Sandman says that if someone from Cody, NE calls someone a liar, they better be able to back it.&nbsp; Sandman didn&#039;t back it and he won&#039;t back it because he has nothing to support his position either way.&nbsp; That&#039;s why he focuses on me proving that I didn&#039;t lie.Well if you now need numbers for calendar year 2004 as proof, WHY DID YOU ACCEPT THE MONEY FOR THE BET??? You took Agman and I at our word on that and thanked Agman for his honesty but now you demand proof for the entire time period when the border was closed.&nbsp; Why the double standard?TALK ABOUT BEING A HYPOCRITE!Agman said his data supported my position that Tyson&#039;s Boise and Pasco plants lost more money than Lakeside made while the border was closed. Why didn&#039;t you ask for proof of calendar year 2004?&nbsp; Instead, you thanked him for his honesty.&nbsp; I&#039;ll tell you why you didn&#039;t ask for proof, because you don&#039;t need proof when it supports your bias and means you would win the bet.&nbsp; Yet you contradcit your standards by demanding nothing short of a financial statement from these plants for the period of time when the border was closed. WHY DIDN&#039;T YOU ASK FOR AGMAN&#039;S PROOF FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2004????&nbsp; YOU THANKED HIM FOR HIS HONESTY AND GLOATED IN A VICTORY YOU CONTRIBUTED NOTHING TO.&nbsp; WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD FOR THE ENTIRE PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THE BORDER WAS CLOSED?????Sandman keeps diverting that issue.At least you have your little packer blaming brethren like Kindergarten, OCM, Hayseed, and Randy Kaiser as your little support group.&nbsp; They can relate because they don&#039;t have any intergrity either.This is very simple, if I lied, WHERE IS THE PROOF SANDMAN????The burden of proof is not on me to prove that I didn&#039;t lie, the burden of proof is on you to prove that I did but you don&#039;t back anything. Sandman won&#039;t back his allegation that I lied because he can&#039;t yet he takes Agman at his word when it supports his bias.&nbsp; Sandman is a complete phony in every sense of the word.~SH~</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 51757"] Katrina, [b]This is not about the bet. This is about Sandman calling me a liar with no proof to back that allegation. [/b] People like Sandman that are naturally deceptive do not take it as personally when someone calls them a liar because they are probably used to it. Someone like myself that cares deeply about the truth and bases his decisions on facts rather than a compelling need to blame takes it very personally. I admitted to being wrong about calendar year 2004. I have no problems with that. If you remember, nobody proved me wrong, I proved myself wrong. I willingly admitted it and paid up. Sandman, AS ALWAYS, contributed absolutely nothing to proving his position one way or another other than challenging me to prove my position by calling me a liar. Par for his typical deceptive slithering ways. The bet is not the issue. The issue is about my original statement for the entire period of time when the border was closed that Sandman called a lie and wants me to prove that it isn't a lie. The issue is also about Sandman's hypocrisy for accepting Agman's word when it supported his bias then demanding proof when it didn't. Sandhusker is a complete phony. Sandman says that if someone from Cody, NE calls someone a liar, they better be able to back it. Sandman didn't back it and he won't back it because he has nothing to support his position either way. That's why he focuses on me proving that I didn't lie. [b]Well if you now need numbers for calendar year 2004 as proof, WHY DID YOU ACCEPT THE MONEY FOR THE BET??? [/b] You took Agman and I at our word on that and thanked Agman for his honesty but now you demand proof for the entire time period when the border was closed. Why the double standard? TALK ABOUT BEING A HYPOCRITE! Agman said his data supported my position that Tyson's Boise and Pasco plants lost more money than Lakeside made while the border was closed. Why didn't you ask for proof of calendar year 2004? Instead, you thanked him for his honesty. I'll tell you why you didn't ask for proof, because you don't need proof when it supports your bias and means you would win the bet. Yet you contradcit your standards by demanding nothing short of a financial statement from these plants for the period of time when the border was closed. [b]WHY DIDN'T YOU ASK FOR AGMAN'S PROOF FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2004???? YOU THANKED HIM FOR HIS HONESTY AND GLOATED IN A VICTORY YOU CONTRIBUTED NOTHING TO. WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD FOR THE ENTIRE PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THE BORDER WAS CLOSED?????[/b] Sandman keeps diverting that issue. At least you have your little packer blaming brethren like Kindergarten, OCM, Hayseed, and Randy Kaiser as your little support group. They can relate because they don't have any intergrity either. [b]This is very simple, if I lied, WHERE IS THE PROOF SANDMAN????[/b] The burden of proof is not on me to prove that I didn't lie, the burden of proof is on you to prove that I did but you don't back anything. Sandman won't back his allegation that I lied because he can't yet he takes Agman at his word when it supports his bias. Sandman is a complete phony in every sense of the word. ~SH~ [/QUOTE]

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