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Hillrider

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Without getting into a debate over which breed is best, could you folks give me some input on who might be raising bulls which fit this description:

80 BW
560 actual 205 day weight
1150-1200lb dam
8 to 10 yr old dam that winters on stockpiled forage and hay.
dam is naturally distasteful to lice and flies.
very quiet disposition
medium to low milk epd


He was grown out on a genuine forage ration, not more than 2-3 lbs grain or equivalent per day. This bull was probably calved out in May and wasn't very impressive at weaning, weighing only 560 lbs, maybe less, and was fed easy over the winter. In the event that no one purchases him because of his actual YW being unimpressive he will be run on grass again, and offerred for sale as 18 mo or 24 mo old. Even as a two year old his weight moderate, probably under 1500 lbs. He frame scores at about 4.5, is thick and long ( of course ) altho he might look short because of his impressive gut capacity. Good conformation is a given. His half brothers and sisters are actively sought by cattle feeders.

I would prefer he was born and raised north of the South Dakota/Nebraska border.
 
littau angus..... 605-557-3533 That's leroys number... Tell him Katrina sent ya or recommended ya or anything... That or Lazy J and Nolletts... I was really impressed with their program...
 
Y'know how you adjust calves to put them on equal footing? Like add weight to a heifer calf, add weight to calf born outa young or old cow?

The guys figure how much % of her weight a cow weans---and if she comes in skinny, they add weight to the cow before figuring the %---and if she comes in in nice shape, they subtract before figuring %. Probably sounds odd, the way I'm explaining it----but it's a way of selecting for females that perform on grass and keep themselves in shape doing it.

Anyway, predominently wye breeding, reduced frame, linebred, lotsa depth and thickness, calve late. I saw yrlgs outa their cattle yrs ago----seemed a little small to me at the time. I also saw yrlgs outa their bulls and the other guys cows---really liked them. Was told it was so much of an outcross it was almost like using another breed.

This yr, their bull sale ran outa buyers----lotsa black bulls for sale in montana---seems every sale either too many bulls or too many buyers. Their females are always in super demand. When I A.I. I always select for the maternal side---a better steer calf might make me $40---a better heifer i can keep for hopefully many yrs will make me far more than that.

Nice folks, interesting program, good cattle, ---the whole clatter kinda outa the "let's all use these lines and do this......" type of thinking where you gotta look at the front of sale program to see where you're at.

http://www.diamonddangus.com/index.html
 
Heres a list of folks producing the type cattle you are talking about:


http://5barx.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=4006&hilit=Glen
 
Jim Brown at LodgeGrass told me Montana has alot of Angus breeders and sooner or later there will be enough. Some of the outfits listed walk the walk and some are just talkin' the talk. I agree with the use of A'I being primarily to raise females-the steers are just the byproduct. The best way to judge is to squander a tank or two of fuel and go check out some herds on your own.
 
Hillrider, I live in SD 16 miles north of NE. I have a registered angus that fits your bill. His AAA #16361201 He will be 2 this spring I used him for clean up after AI. Never had grain in his life. You can see his dam granddam & half sisters by his dam & sire. He is gental as a lamb, & a very aggressive breeder. He is linebreed to Emulation 31 over 45 times.
 
Without getting into breeds myself, our cattle fit that description. Only hitch is we're a long ways Northwest of you. Our cattle are similar to the others described or suggested, just with a double haircoat, I'd argue tougher than most, and from a program that focuses on selling beef, not bulls. Makes culling real easy. We only keep the ones born in the first cycle from older proven cows. Sending one to a breeder in Washington this spring.
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I Luv Herfrds said:
Try looking here.

www.ngrbulls.com

Father away then you wanted, but good cattle.
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VERY VERY VERY happy with the bull I bought from this outfit!
 
jigs can hardly wait for us to start calving and see how the calves out of the bull we got from him does and how the new bull we got will do next year.
 
Hillrider said:
Without getting into a debate over which breed is best, could you folks give me some input on who might be raising bulls which fit this description:

80 BW
560 actual 205 day weight
1150-1200lb dam
8 to 10 yr old dam that winters on stockpiled forage and hay.
dam is naturally distasteful to lice and flies.
very quiet disposition
medium to low milk epd


He was grown out on a genuine forage ration, not more than 2-3 lbs grain or equivalent per day. This bull was probably calved out in May and wasn't very impressive at weaning, weighing only 560 lbs, maybe less, and was fed easy over the winter. In the event that no one purchases him because of his actual YW being unimpressive he will be run on grass again, and offerred for sale as 18 mo or 24 mo old. Even as a two year old his weight moderate, probably under 1500 lbs. He frame scores at about 4.5, is thick and long ( of course ) altho he might look short because of his impressive gut capacity. Good conformation is a given. His half brothers and sisters are actively sought by cattle feeders.

I would prefer he was born and raised north of the South Dakota/Nebraska border.
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I do have a two year old that would fit the profile. I actually had a younger purebred breeder interested in the bull who was looking for a really moderate, thick made bull and he probably was just to small framed for even him. He commented that he had never seen a Hereford built like him. Probably frame a 4. He was way above average gainer too. I have actual carcass data on his brothers that is as good as I have ever had, huge REA and IMF and his mother was a real easy doing type cow.

I also have a December born yearling out of a 16 year old cow. She didn't get any special attention all winter and I pulled him off the cow in May so I could flush her. He he ran on grass all summer. He is going to be too small framed for many people but his dam was at one time regarded by some pretty good cattleman as one of the best cows in the breed during her time. He is RFI tested too.

If you are interestedd in Herefords, let me know. It doesn't cost anything to look :D
 

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