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MAD COW CASE SUSPECT 'CANADA' March 8, 2006 NOT!!!

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Subject: MAD COW CASE SUSPECT 'CANADA' March 8, 2006
Date: March 8, 2006 at 6:31 am PST

AROUND THE WORLD

March 8, 2006


MAD COW CASE IS A POSSIBILITY


OTTAWA--Scientists are studying samples in a possible new case of mad cow disease after a preliminary test showed a 'presumptive positive,'' a Canadian Food Inspection Agency official said Sunday. Results of more rigorous tests could be available this week.


http://chron.com


TSS




READ ON AND YOU WILL SEE THAT BIG MUDDY CONFIRMED THIS STORY TO BE BOGUS..............THANKS..............TSS


Old news Guys .


FYI, the Houston Chronicle ran an old piece of news (link attached)
indicating that CFIA is currently testing a presumptive positive sample
for BSE - CFIA has confirmed that there is no presumptive positive in
the works. It appears this story is outdated news referring to the case
that was diagnosed in January.
 
big muddy,


at least ya'll are trying, just the opposite of the USDA et al. they just keep trying to cover BSE up. oddly enough, they are the only ones that believe there june 2004 2005 ehanced cover-up of bse, and they could not even get that right. the USA will not document a case of BSE unless it is by accident, which is what happened in both cases. i have been told this time and time again from officials on the inside looing out, and i dont give a damn if any of you believe me or not. IF the USA would do a proper surveillance and testing program for BSE for 2 years by testing all cattle with proper and most sensitive BSE test protocol, you would find a much different and very disturbing fact that the USA is infested with TSE in there cattle pop. that is why the june 2004 enhanced cover-up was set up the way it was, i.e. not to find and document TSE in the USA cattle pop. but the cattle pop is so infected, they could not even succeed in that. i believe this with all my heart after watching larry, curley and mo at the USDA for the last 6 years. ...TSS
 
flounder- I truly hope you are wrong- but after watching the same Larry Moe and Curly show- along with the daily revelations of government coverups and fraud, I'm inclined to side with you......

I never thought I'd see our government get so bad--I've seen and worked around crooked politicians and bureaucrats all my life- but most were eventually exposed and outed or prosecuted- altho some only got a slap on the wrist- but they usually lost the trust of the public....I see today where Tom Delay won the Texas primary by 62%--makes me wonder about the Texans in his district..........
 
Hey Oldtimer, make sure you take founders last post over to Cattle Today and post it along with the one of his you copied above. Couldn't wait to spread this one arounf the net huh?

BMR, it seems odd as a google showed up nothing from Rueters or AP, CTV or CBC and I have had no e-mail notification especially if CFIA announced it Sunday.
 
Bill said:
Hey Oldtimer, make sure you take founders last post over to Cattle Today and post it along with the one of his you copied above. Couldn't wait to spread this one arounf the net huh?

BMR, it seems odd as a google showed up nothing from Rueters or AP, CTV or CBC and I have had no e-mail notification especially if CFIA announced it Sunday.

flounder seems to be quite capable since he found the site...The reason I like these sites- sometimes you get the news before it even makes the news- like back in 2004, we knew the Washington cow was Canadian 2 weeks before the USDA could figure it out :wink:
 
Bill said:
Hey Oldtimer, make sure you take founders last post over to Cattle Today and post it along with the one of his you copied above. Couldn't wait to spread this one arounf the net huh?

BMR, it seems odd as a google showed up nothing from Rueters or AP, CTV or CBC and I have had no e-mail notification especially if CFIA announced it Sunday.

I just checked the CFIA web site and the last press release they had was dated Friday Mar 3 and it was about the conclusion of the investigation of the last positive cow. So yes it does seem a bit odd.
 
this was either an accidental and or deliberate leak.
you will most likely not hear anything unless the cow is confirmed.
the only difference here between the USA and Canada, if i were a betting,
the sample will not sit on a shelf for 8 months and or 4 months and let the
markets relax after deliberate leaks, like in the USA. very simple, leak it out,
let the markets react on something they will not confirm, let the markets take
in that 'presumptive, then either confirm or not 8 months later ;-) $
but, the article was very small, but it was in the houston, chronicle today,
International Business, 'Mad Cow case is a possibility' under 'around the world'.
this is NOT unusual. THE same damn thing happened with the Texas mad cow
that sat on a shelf for 8 months before the Honorable Fong gave the USDA such
a spanking for trying to cover up that cow. IF you go back to my original post on
this cow, i had an inside via someone that was at the ........... will let that go,
but when i confirmed that cow (see emails below) it was a slip in a CANADIAN
newspaper originally that let that mad cow out of the bag, if i am not mistaken.
?????????????


holy Texas mad cow, here it is ;




> SO, TSS TEXAS MAD COW STILL LIVES ;
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: ''INCONCLUSIVE'' IS NEGATIVE or so they claim...OFFICIAL
REPORT
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:59:27 -0600
> From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
> Reply-To: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
> To: [email protected]
> References: <[email protected]> [email protected].>
>
>
> ##################### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
#####################
>
> INTERESTING comments in this old newspaper article i ran
> across ;
>
> Nov 22 2004 07:09 PM MST CBC News
>
> USDA approves live cattle, border reopening could take months
>
> snip...
>
> Also on Monday, the USDA said test results on a suspected case of mad
> cow are inconclusive, which means further tests will be done. Canadian
> authorities have been told that the cow, from Texas, didn't have the
> metal ID tag that cows born here are given.
>
> snip...
>
>
http://edmonton.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=ed-mad-cow20041122
>


snip......

P.S., I BROKE THIS URL UP hoping we will not have the dang horizontal skroll problems...tss

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:t9U_8rx9QlUJ:lists.iatp.org/listarchive/
archive.cfm%3Fid%3D108492+canada+newspaper+bse+texas+beef+cow+inconclusive+22+
Nov+2004++tss&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: MAD COW CONFIRMED TEXAS COW (rumor)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:45:30 -0600
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
Reply-To: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
To: [email protected]
References: <[email protected]>


##################### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy #####################

Greetings again,

well, i might have been played like a card? i dont know, but here is
the latest from USDA et al ;

Release No. 0505.04

by
U.S. Department of Agriculture Press Secretary Alisa Harrison
November 22, 2004

Test results for the BSE inconclusive are not complete. There will be
no announcements made tonight. USDA will release the results as soon as
the National Veterinary Services Laboratory completes the testing process.

#

so i guess the 7pm EST announcement was just this...damn,
i will not sleep tonight///

TSS

Terry S. Singeltary Sr. wrote:

=================================================


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: MAD COW CONFIRMED TEXAS COW (rumor)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:09:12 -0600
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
Reply-To: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
To: [email protected]
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>


##################### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy #####################

WHAT the hell is going on here?

NOW the TAHC has REMOVED the BSE data they had previously
been posted today that i (luckily) pasted below earlier, which i will
again post here. THIS was posted on TAHC today, but the link to
the announcement was dead.

Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy:
November 22: Press Release title here

star image More BSE information


http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/

I sent Carla Everet this TODAY;


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: BSE 'INCONCLUSIVE' COW from TEXAS ???
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:12:15 -0600
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
To: Carla Everett
References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>


Greetings Carla,


still hear a rumor;

Texas

single beef cow

not born in Canada

no beef entered the food chain?


and i see the TEXAS department of animal health is ramping up for
something, but they forgot a url for update?

I HAVE NO ACTUAL CONFIRMATION YET...

can you confirm???

terry

I RECIEVED NO REPLY.

This Was my reply from Carla 11/19/04 about the first
rumor i heard about this Texas cow;

Carla Everett wrote:

> The USDA has made a statement, and we are referring all
> callers to the USDA web site. We have no information
> about the animal being in Texas. Carla
>
>
>
> At 09:44 AM 11/19/2004, you wrote:
>
>> Greetings Carla,
>>
>> i am getting unsubstantiated claims of this BSE 'inconclusive' cow is
>> from
>> TEXAS. can you comment on this either way please?
>>
>> thank you,
>> Terry S. Singeltary Sr.
>>


NOW the BSE data and announcement that was there with
no url, has vanished. something fishy smelling here...

HANG ON NOW, i just get this;


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: BSE 'INCONCLUSIVE' COW from TEXAS ???
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:45:39 -0600
From: Carla Everett
To: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>


no confirmation on the U.S.' inconclusive test...
no confirmation on location of animal.


OK, i ask;


-------- Original Message --------

Subject: Re: BSE 'INCONCLUSIVE' COW from TEXAS ???
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:05:16 -0600
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
To: Carla Everett
References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>


why was the announcement on your TAHC site removed?

Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy:
November 22: Press Release title here

star image More BSE information

snip....

to be continued.........

TSS

=========================================


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: MAD COW CONFIRMED TEXAS COW (rumor)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:40:39 -0600
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
Reply-To: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
To: [email protected]
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>


##################### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy #####################

Greetings again,

further comments from TAHC as follows;


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: BSE 'INCONCLUSIVE' COW from TEXAS ???
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:33:20 -0600
From: Carla Everett
To: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>


our computer department was working on a place holder we could post
USDA's announcement of any results. There are no results to be announced
tonight
by NVSL, so we are back in a waiting mode and will post the USDA announcement
when we hear something.


At 06:05 PM 11/22/2004, you wrote:
>why was the announcement on your TAHC site removed?
>
>Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy:
>November 22: Press Release title here
>http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/news/pr/2004/xxx.pdf
>star image More BSE information
>
>http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/diseases/bse/bse.shtml
>
>terry
>

snip...END
==========


snip...





-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: ''INCONCLUSIVE'' IS NEGATIVE or so they claim...OFFICIAL REPORT
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:22:50 -0600
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr." <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
References: <[email protected]>




##################### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy #####################Greetings list members,I find this very very disturbing. IN fact i will say that if the USDA/APHISdo not get a second opinion from the experts overseas, I would saythat there is a cover-up. WE now know that they are willing to doanything to cover-up BSE in the USA by what they did with the otherstumbling and staggering cow they refused to TSE test and sent to therender in TEXAS. IN fact I am hearing from International experts onTSE that they do NOT buy the latest USDAs test result. why should they?Seems they did not even do a western blot from what i was told. They runtwo rapid test that turn up positive, but the USDA finds that to be inconclusive.They also said they would not be telling us of any 'inconclusive', but they did.SO, why was it announced? I will tell you why, because the likelihood of itbeing positive was very high. Even the CEO of BioRAD and Prionics said this.IN fact, USDA has never said they would run 2 IHC, so again, why did theythis time? I will tell you why, they wanted a negative so bad, they would testthe samples until they found a portion of the brain/tissue sample that would not show a positive. THIS REEKs of industry/political manipulation. I cannot believe that our foreign alies/exporting countries (if there is any left), continueto risk there people through the lies from this administration. why won'tUSDA et al send samples for independent examinations if they are still havingsuch a hard time with this? what do they have to hide? IF both theTSE laboratory in Waybride, England and the University of Bern, Switzerland(OIE Reference Laboratory) dont get a sample of this tissue from this cowto give second opinions, then in my opinion that cow was positive.Hell, we get official slides of Japan's infected samples to survey.but in the USA, it's all closed doors now and they will test the damn animalas many times as it takes to get a negative. total bull shirt encephalopathy thisis, what i call BSeee, politics at it's finest hour. when will it all end$IF we look at the original U.S. Emergency Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy Response Plan Summary i posted in 1999,it states very clearly;If additional tests do suggest a presumptive diagnosis of BSE, an NVSLpathologist will hand carry the sample to the United Kingdom forconfirmation. It is at this critical point, when NVSL suggests adiagnosis of BSE and is preparing to send the sample to the UnitedKingdom, that this BSE Response Plan is initiated. The Plan begins thepreliminary notification from NVSL to APHIS...snip...endBUT this administration has clearly shown they have no rules andregulations, they change them with the wind to suit there needs$ORIGINAL POSTING;Subject: U.S. Emergency Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy Response PlanSummaryDate: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:25:12 -0500From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."Reply-To: BSE-LTo: BSE-LFrom: Terry S. Singeltary Sr., Bacliff, Texas......I thought it might be interesting for those of you who have not seenthis plan, to do so. So here it is...........The mission of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) is to enhancethe quality of life for the American people by supporting productionagriculture; ensuring a safe, affordable, nutritious, and accessiblefood supply; caring for agricultural, forest, and range lands;supporting sound development of rural communities; providing economicopportunities for farm and rural residents; expanding global markets foragricultural and forest products and services; and working to reducehunger in America and throughout the world.USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) is responsiblefor ensuring the health and care of animals and plants. APHIS improvesagricultural productivity and competitiveness and contributes to thenational economy and the public health. USDA's Food Safety andInspection Service (FSIS) is responsible for protecting the Nation'smeat and poultry supply--making sure it is safe, wholesome,unadulterated, and properly labeled and packaged. These two agencieshave come together to lead USDA's actions in the prevention, monitoring,and control of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) in the U.S.livestock and food supply.The public knows BSE as "MAD COW DISEASE", a disease linked to humancases of new-variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (nvCJD). USDA knows BSEas the disease that devastated the livestock industry in the UnitedKingdom and shattered consumer confidence in Europe. BSE has affectedinternational trade and all aspects of the animal and public healthcommunities. It has called even greater attention to the U.S.Government's accountability for a safe food supply.No case of BSE has ever been found in the United States. Since 1989,USDA has had a number of stringent safeguards in place to prevent BSEfrom entering the country. USDA conducts an ongoing, comprehensiveinteragency surveillance program for BSE. This surveillance programallows USDA to monitor actively for BSE to ensure immediate detection inthe event that BSE were to be introduced into the United States.Immediate detection allows for swift response. As an emergencypreparedness measure, USDA has developed this BSE Response Plan to beinitiated in the event that a case of BSE is diagnosed in the UnitedStates. The Plan details comprehensive instructions for USDA staff as towho is to do what, when, where, and how in the event that BSE were to bediagnosed in the United States.BACKGROUNDAPHIS is responsible for being prepared for potential FOREIGN animaldisease outbreaks. The purpose of such preparation is to provide astep-by-step plan of action in the event that a FOREIGN animal disease,such as BSE, is detected in the United States. These plans, oftenreferred to as "RED BOOKS", provide guidance by outlining certainactions that should take place, such as identification of a suspectanimal, laboratory confirmation, epidemiologic investigation, and animaland herd disposition activities. Copies of Red Books for specificFOREIGN animal diseases are distributed to agency headquarters and eachregional and field office to have in preparation for a disease outbreak.In 1990, APHIS developed a plan to respond to a confirmation of BSE inthe United States. In August 1996, a joint APHIS-FSIS working groupupdated the BSE Red Book in accordance with current science and researchsurrounding BSE and the related family of disease called transmissiblespongiform encephalopathies (TSE's). The BSE Red Book is officiallyentitled BSE EMERGENCY DISEASE GUIDELINES.The APHIS-FSIS working group determined that the BSE Red Book, whichdetailed laboratory and field activities to be carried out in anemergency, needed another component. After the March 1996 announcementby the United Kingdom that BSE was linked to nvCJD, it became apparentto the working group that the Plan needed to address communicationissues, both internally within USDA and the Federal Government andexternally to the public at large. A confirmed case of BSE would affectsuch a vast array of stakeholders-consumers, cattle producers, the foodanimal industry, international trading partners, animal and publichealth communities, media, and others. Having clear, accurateinformation readily available would build trust and credibility andfacilitate any response measures needed. There needed to be anotification plan. Who was responsible for notifying who, what, when,and how? The plan needed to identify clear channels of communication asto ensure immediate collection and dissemination of accurateinformation.The joint APHIS--FSIS working group became formally known as the BSEResponse Team and is responsible for the development of this BSEResponse Response Plan. BSE Response Team members represent a mix ofbackgrounds and expertise, including veterinary medicine, food safety,public health, epidemiology, pathology, international trade, and publicaffairs. The Team is coordinatied by two Team Leaders, one each fromAPHIS and FSIS, who serve as liaisons and technical advisors to theirrespective agencies on regulations and policies regarding BSE.Over the past 2 years, the BSE Response Plan has been reviewed, edited,revised, and approved by officials at all levels of APHIS, FSIS, andUSDA. The Plan has also been shared with other Government agencies, suchas the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the Centers for DiseaseControl and Prevention (CDC), and the National Institutes of Health(NIH), and other stakeholders, such as the Animal Ag Coalition.The BSE Response Team monitors and assesses all ongoing events andresearch findings regarding TSE's. The Team leaders are responsible forensuring that prevention and diagnostic measures are continually revisedand adjusted as new information and knowledge become available.NOTIFICATION: Roles and ResponsibilitiesSurveillanceAs part of USDA's surveillance program for BSE in the United States,veterinary pathologists and field investigators from APHIS and FSIS havereceived training from British counterparts in diagnosing BSE. FSISinspects cattle before they go to slaughter; these inspection proceduresinclude identifying animals with central nervous system conditions.Animals with such conditions are considered suspect for BSE, prohibitedfrom slaughter, and referred to APHIS for examination as explainedbelow.Pathologists at APHIS National Veterinary Services Laboratories (NVSL)histopathologically examine the brains from these condemned animals. Inaddition, samples are tested using a technique calledimmunohistochemistry, which tests for the presence of theprotease-resistant prion protein (a marker for BSE). NVSL also examinessamples from neurologically ill cattle and nonambulatory ("DOWNER")cattle identified on the farm or at slaughter and from rabies-negativecattle submitted to veterinary diagnostic laboratories and teachinghospitals.NOTIFICATIONBecause of their responsibility for examining condemned or BSE-suspectanimals, NVSL is the organization responsible for activating thenotification and BSE response process. It is NVSL that will begin theactivation of the BSE Response Plan. From the time a sample issubmitted, it takes 14 to 18 days to confirm a diagnosis of BSE In thefirst 10 to 13 days, pathologists at NVSL have enough information toeither rule out BSE or determine the need for additional tests. If it isdetermined that there is no evidence of BSE, the results are added tothe more than 7,500 others that have also been negative. NVSL maintainsthese data.If additional tests do suggest a presumptive diagnosis of BSE, an NVSLpathologist will hand carry the sample to the United Kingdom forconfirmation. It is at this critical point, when NVSL suggests adiagnosis of BSE and is preparing to send the sample to the UnitedKingdom, that this BSE Response Plan is initiated. The Plan begins thepreliminary notification from NVSL to APHIS.Prelimanary NotificationThe director of NVSL is responsible for immediately notifying the APHIS,Veterinary Services (VS) deputy administrator when tests suggest apresumptive diagnosis of BSE.Once NVSL has made a presumptive diagnosis of BSE, APHIS and FSIS fieldactivities will also be initiated. APHIS will receive notification(either confirming or not confirming NVSL's diagnosis) from the UnitedKingdom anywhere between 24 and 96 hours. (The international animalhealth community has recognized the United Kingdom's Central VeterinaryLaboratory {CVL} as the world's reference laboratory for diagnosing BSE.Other countries, including Belgium, France, Ireland, Luxembourg, theNetherlands, Portugal, and Switzerland, have all sent samples to thislab to confirm their first case of BSE).NVSLNVSL will provide all laboratory support in carrying out this BSEResponse Plan and serve as the liaison with CVL. NVSL will prepare itsfacility to receive and process additional samples from the suspectanimal's progeny or herdmates or other suspects. NVSL will alsocoordinate any other assistance from State or university diagnosticlaboratories if necessary.APHIS, VS DEPUTY ADMINISTRATORVeterinary Services is the animal health arm of APHIS and the programresponsible for carrying out field actions in response to BSE. Uponnotifiction of a presumptive diagnosis from NVSL, the APHIS, VS deputyadministrator immediately notifies the FSIS, Office of Public Health andScience (OPHS) deputy administrator. APHIS and FSIS deputyadministrators will alert the BSE Response Team and activate theResponse Plan. The VS deputy administrator serves as the liaison betweenthe BSE Response Team and the APHIS administrator.The APHIS, VS deputy administrator notifies the APHIS administrator andthe VS regional director of the State from which the suspect animaloriginated.APHIS AdministratorThe APHIS Administrator immediately notifies the USDA AssistantSecretary for Marketing and Regulatory Programs. This immediatenotification will be followed by an official informational memorandumfrom the APHIS Administrator, through the Assistant Secretary forMarketing and Regulatory Programs, to the Secretary of Agriculture. Thismemorandum will be prepared by the BSE Response Team; a draft ismaintained by the Team leaders in the reserved section of their plans.The APHIS Administrator is responsible for securing indemnity funds fordepopulation of the herd if CVL confirms NVSL's diagnosis.Assistant Secretary for Marketing and Regulatory ProgramsThe Assistant Secretary for Marketing and Regulatory Programs, inconjuction with the Undersecretary for Food Safety, is responsible fornotifying the Secretary. The Assistant Secretary serves as the liaisonbetween APHIS and Department-level officials.Secretary of AgricultureThe Secretary has the authority to declare a Federal EMERGENCY ifappropriate and approve funding as necessary. Information will beprovided to the Secretary up the chain of command from the BSE ResponseTeam.FSIS, OPHS Deputy AdministratorThe OPHS Deputy Administrator, together with the APHIS, VS DeputyAdministrator, alert the BSE Response Team leaders and instruct them toassemble the BSE Response Team and activate the Plan. The OPHS DeputyAdministrator serves as the liaison between the BSE Response Team andthe FSIS Administrator.The OPHS Deputy Administrator is responsible for notifying the FSISregional director in charge of the State from which the suspect animaloriginated.FSIS Deputy AdministratorThe FSIS Deputy Administrator is responsible for notifying theUndersecretary for Food Safety.Undersecretary for Food SafetyThe Undersecretary for Food Safety, in conjuction with the AssistantSecretary for Marketing and Regulatory Programs, notifies the Secretaryof Agriculture.APHIS, VS, Regional DirectorThe APHIS, VS regional director in charge of the State from which thesuspect animal originated notifies the VS Area Veterinarian-in-Charge(AVIC) for that State. The regional director is the liaison between VSfield staff and the VS Deputy Administrator at headquarters. Inaddition, the regional director shares all information with the BSEResponse Team.APHIS, VS, AVICThe VS AVIC, in cooperation with State animal health authorities, isresponsible for coordination the field activities surrounding theemergency response to BSE. The AVIC assembles the local VS staff toinitiate activities outlined in the BSE Red Book including tracing theprogeny and herdmates of the suspect animal and beginning anepidemiologic investigation. The VS AVIC coordinates with the StateVeterinarian to quarantine the suspect animal's herd of origin. TheState has the authority to order a routine quarantine for a neurologicaldisease. The BSE Response Team surveyed every State to determine if theywould utilize this authority in the event that NVSL identifies apresumptive diagnosis of BSE. All States responded that they would issuea quarantine.BSE Response TeamThe BSE Response Team leaders will notify each team member and instructthem to assemble in the Situation Room at APHIS headquarters inRiverdale, MD. The Team leaders are responsible for ensuring that all ofthe Team's duties are fulfilled. It is their responsibility to ensurethat the technical information and expert recommendations reach thedecisionmakers in a timely fashion. Together with VS Emergency Programsstaff, the Team leaders will obtain APHIS, VS administrative supportstaff in Riverdale, MD, to ready the room for use as BSE headquarters.The Team will begin gathering and assembling information from APHIS andFSIS region and field staff. The Team will pull the draft documents fromthe third section in the Team leaders manuals and begin filling incurrent information as it becomes available.Public NotificationShould NVSL receive notice from CVL confirming a case of BSE, the nextlevel of notification is activated. Each player will follow the samenotification protocol as described above for preliminary notification toconfirm the diagnosis of a case of BSE.BSE Response TeamThe BSE Response Team will complete the informational memorandum for theSecretary. The Team will prepare the letter to the Office ofInternational Epizootics (OIE), the international animal healthorganization, for signature by the APHIS, VS Deputy Administrator. OIErequires that all countries submit official notification within 24 hoursof confirming a diagnosis of BSE.The BSE Response Team and the office of the APHIS, VS DeputyAdministrator would coordinate a teleconference to inform all APHISregional directors and AVIC'S.The BSE Response Team and the office of the FSIS, OPHS DeputyAdministrator would coordinate a teleconference to inform all regionaland field FSIS offices.The BSE Response Team would coordinate a teleconference to notify otherFederal agencies.The BSE Response Team would coordinate a teleconference to notify keyindustry/consumer representatives.The BSE Response Team and APHIS International Services would notifyforeign embassies.The BSE Response Team would establish a toll-free 800 telephone line forindustry representatives, reporters, and the public.The BSE Response Team would coordinate with APHIS Legislative and PublicAffairs and USDA office of Communications to issue a press release theday the diagnosis is confirmed. The press release would announce a pressconference to be held the morning after the diagnosis is confirmed......THE ENDMY good friend Dr. Pringle of the Sperling Foundation;Subject: hunkering down in the APHIS BSE Situation RoomDate: Wed, 12 May 1999 01:55:54 -0800From: tomReply-To: BSE-LTo: BSE-Li am looking now a bizarre Oct 98 internal USDA publication describinga james bond-type US effort to control media should the long-anticipatedfirst case of BSE in the US be admitted.'Players' on the 27 member BSE Response Team are to be flown in from allover the country to a BSE Headquarters 'situation room' apparently anunderground bunker in Riverdale, Maryland under the command of theAssistant Secretary of Marketing.Authentic press releases are already prepared and ready to go out after afew specifics have been filled in. They are spelled out in a separatedocument, the BSE Red Book, aka BSE Emergency Disease Guidelines.Aphis' National Veterinary Services Laboratories (NVSL) activates teamassembly. From the time a bovine brain sample is submitted, it takes14-18 days to confirm a diagnosis of BSE. In the first 10-13 days, NVSLhave enough information to determine the need for additional tests. If aprovisional BSE diagnosis is made, the sample is 'hand-carried' (arethey going to tell the airline and customs?) to the Central VeterinaryLaboratory in England for confirmation, where they are expecting a 24 to96 hour turn-around.I guess that means we can get the white tiger brain analyzed by Fridaydespite the 22 year delay to date. Maybe we could throw in a few cougarbrains from NE Colorado too.A Team Member is designated to silently monitor this listserve andwww.mad-cow.org (among others) -- for what, it doesn't say. TheFreedom of Information Act request from the East Coast consumer groupturned up numerous top-secret USDA downloads from that site andDealler's.After 24 hours of secret briefings for 'select industry and tradingpartners' (to allow them to take positions on the commodities marketsopposite the 'non-select' industry and trading partners?), a pressconference will be held the next day.There are plans to trace the cow, its lineage, its herdmates, therenderer, traceout of product, buyout of herd, farm of origin, to get thestate involved to quarantine the herd (pre-arranged for all 50 states),expectations for trade bans, notification of OIE within 24 hours, media800 numbers, spokespersons and backups, notify CDC, FDA, NIH, and manyother commendable activities. The Flow Chart is a sight to behold, Iwill try to scan it in tomorrow.In short, that cow is going to be toast by the time the public firsthears about it.The Plan does not speak to the scenario in which the CVL says, yes, thisis bovine spongiform encephalopathy all right but it is one of yourstrains, not ours. Invoking their Absence of Evidence is Evidence ofAbsence principle, there may be no perceived need for public disclosurein this case.USDA is caught completely unprepared if BSE first turns up in a US zooanimal. These animals could easily be diagnosed outside the "system"and be the subject of a publicity-seeking lab press release. I thinkthis is a more likely scenario because the US has likely imported manythousands of zoo animals with advanced infections from Britain andFrance and there has been zero monitoring. Unlike with downer cows,anyone with the right colleagues can get ahold of a fallen zoo animal.Zoo animals enter the food chain in some cases after being rendered.Another scenario would be some stock market speculator obtaining the RedBook and issuing a flurry of bogus but authentic-looking press releasesthat included bogus 800 and hacked USDA web links. The press here is solazy and so accustomed to putting out public relation handouts as newsthat the objectives would be accomplished for a few hour (or days,depending on the Response Team's paralysis vis-a-vis off-flow chartevents). Some people think a practise run for this happened in theIndiana case a year or two back.The first case of nvCJD in an American will also be a public relationsfiasco. In the dim bulb of the public mind, any American with mad cowdisease would have gotten it from eating meat here. USDA has no way toprove that the victim acquired it on a three week trip to England in1987. This will sound lame even to the press. All CJD is synonymous withmad cow disease in the public perception; the more often the differentkinds are explained, the more their suspicions are aroused. The firstcase of nvCJD in an American will simply validate what they already knowand just be viewed as an overdue admission from the government.tomTerry S. Singeltary Sr., still very disgusted in Bacliff, TEXASTerry S. Singeltary Sr. wrote:> ##################### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy > #####################>> Release No. 0508.04>> Statement by John Clifford, Deputy Administrator- Animal & Plant > Health Inspection Service>> November 23, 2004>>> "The USDA National Veterinary Services Laboratories (NVSL) in Ames, > Iowa, has determined that the inconclusive screening test sample > reported on Nov. 18 has tested negative for BSE upon confirmatory > testing.> "The Nov. 18 sample is the first that has tested inconclusive under an > APHIS protocol announced in August that calls for public reporting of > screening results only after two reactive screens. NVSL used the > immunohistochemistry (IHC) test, an internationally-recognized gold > standard test for BSE, and received a negative result on Nov. 22. > Because the Nov. 18 screening test results were reactive in both the > first and second screens, NVSL scientists made the recommendation to > run the IHC test a second time. On Nov. 23 they reported the second > IHC test was negative. Negative results from both IHC tests makes us > confident that the animal in question is indeed negative for BSE.>> "APHIS began an enhanced surveillance program on June 1 and to date > has tested over 121,000 samples for BSE. Screening tests are designed > to be extremely sensitive and false positives are not unexpected. > APHIS has reported three inconclusives including the Nov. 18 sample > and all have tested negative on confirmatory testing.">>> #>>> USDA News> [email protected].> 202 720-4623>>> TSS>> ############## [email protected] > ##############>>############## [email protected] ##############
 
flounder said:
big muddy,


at least ya'll are trying, just the opposite of the USDA et al. they just keep trying to cover BSE up. oddly enough, they are the only ones that believe there june 2004 2005 ehanced cover-up of bse, and they could not even get that right. the USA will not document a case of BSE unless it is by accident, which is what happened in both cases. i have been told this time and time again from officials on the inside looing out, and i dont give a damn if any of you believe me or not. IF the USA would do a proper surveillance and testing program for BSE for 2 years by testing all cattle with proper and most sensitive BSE test protocol, you would find a much different and very disturbing fact that the USA is infested with TSE in there cattle pop. that is why the june 2004 enhanced cover-up was set up the way it was, i.e. not to find and document TSE in the USA cattle pop. but the cattle pop is so infected, they could not even succeed in that. i believe this with all my heart after watching larry, curley and mo at the USDA for the last 6 years. ...TSS


I believe you and it appears that Japan does as well.
 
Old news Guys .


FYI, the Houston Chronicle ran an old piece of news (link attached)
indicating that CFIA is currently testing a presumptive positive sample
for BSE - CFIA has confirmed that there is no presumptive positive in
the works. It appears this story is outdated news referring to the case
that was diagnosed in January.
 
I was kind of thinking that may be the case because nothing was being reported anywhere,Thx for the update BMR...WHEW!
 
Not to worry Big Muddy. The chances of a those rapid tests being confirmed as false positive are somewhere between 50,000 - 300,000 to 1.

We're so good at testing down here we had TWO within just a few months apart. We could send some guys up to show you how if you want!
 
THANKS big muddy for getting this straightened out.
the chronicle does not usually do this? in the past, they have been pretty reliable....thanks again.........glad it was neg...........TSS
 
Now poor Oldtimer won't have anything to crow about.

I wonder if he will correct his post over at Cattletoday?
 
Bill said:
Now poor Oldtimer won't have anything to crow about.

I wonder if he will correct his post over at Cattletoday?

I'll wait a week or two and see what happens--We both know that just because a government bureaucracy denies something doesn't mean its the truth--Maybe CFIA is taking lessons from the USDA :wink:

Besides you're due for another pretty soon anyway- unless you've learned how to grease CFIA's palms the way USDA's have been....
 
Oldtimer said:
Bill said:
Now poor Oldtimer won't have anything to crow about.

I wonder if he will correct his post over at Cattletoday?

I'll wait a week or two and see what happens--We both know that just because a government bureaucracy denies something doesn't mean its the truth--Maybe CFIA is taking lessons from the USDA :wink:

Besides you're due for another pretty soon anyway- unless you've learned how to grease CFIA's palms the way USDA's have been....

Typical R-CALFer ready to spread the lies at the drop of a hat but refuses to believe the explanation that clears us. I doubt you will ever go back and report this to be what it really was as that wouldn't fit your agenda to discredit our industry would it? :roll: :roll:
 

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