Econ, did I say that you lied about a product? My comments are about those who DO make unverified claims about nutrients or residues in beef.

That is commendable. Why, then, do you believe people should not have to verify and prove with tests by independent laboratories their claims that their "natural" or "organic" beef is better than conventionally produced beef, when the law requires that there be NO residues in any beef, other than marinades listed on the label?

I have never "needed to lie", nor have I, to sell my cattle or beef, often at or very near market topping prices, I might add.

PPRM, Thanks! I think we are pretty much on the same page in this discussion, and I've enjoyed the non-threatening tone. I sure never took your views as anything but your own and don't see any "snakeoil" evidence in your posts.

MRJ