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AngusCowBoy

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I'm 15 and I decided I am going to sell 10 of my commercial cows, and start a registered herd this fall so that when I get older I will have a quality herd of registered cows, I have decieded to choose black angus as, that is what we have now. I'm not sure if I should raise maternal cattle and use bulls like Cole Creek Black Cedar 46P as foundation sires, or performance cattle and use bulls like SAV Net Worth 4200 and Sitz Upward 307r. What would you guys reccomend?
 
Raise good maternal cows, the steers will take care of themselves. IMHO
 
While it could be argued that there are a lot of Angus cattle that do the terminal thing well, there are other breeds that do it better. The maternal thing is a natural strength of Angus cattle (at least certain types).
I don't think you can ever go wrong with a maternal cowherd. You need to get a premium on bulls if you want to pay to maintain a terminal type of cowherd (think bigger cows with more growth and costs).
If it was me I'd go the maternal route...
Of course it is not me, so figure what you want to do and go for it....
Good luck with things.
 
leanin' H said:
gcreekrch said:
Silver said:
Raise good maternal cows, the steers will take care of themselves. IMHO
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Ya beat me to it. :wink:
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My thoughts as well. It does trouble me greatly to know that Gcreek and Silver think like I do. :shock: I'll bet it troubles them more. :wink:
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:agree: :gag:
 
gcreekrch said:
Silver said:
leanin' H said:
My thoughts as well. It does trouble me greatly to know that Gcreek and Silver think like I do. :shock: I'll bet it troubles them more. :wink:
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:agree: :gag:
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Does that make us el.... eltr.... eletc...... uh..... wiring guys too? :lol:
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Remember your not wired for 220's. :wink: :lol: :lol:
 
Calving ease/maternal will be more profitable every time. If you want to go purebred, you just have witnessed where the demand is. Of coarse there are a lot of goat people chiming in, but they are on track!
 
You can have some darn good cows with performance too. Just go right up the middle and you won't get off track.
 
Shortgrass said:
Calving ease/maternal will be more profitable every time. If you want to go purebred, you just have witnessed where the demand is. Of coarse there are a lot of goat people chiming in, but they are on track!
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Wait til I show you the result of crossing a high performance .22 on this fine little goat. :wink:


What does a person season a goat with? :?
 
Take a look at and study successful breeders in your area/enviroment. You have lots of years in front of you, but it takes a lifetime to do it right. Then watch and see what the COMMERCIAL customers of these successful breeders are buying.

I am a believer that you can have both, performance and maternal in the same herd. Just don't go extreme on either. Pay attention to the cowlines of the bulls you are using, make sure the dam of the bull is the kind of cow you want your cowherd to resemble. Never use a bull because he looks good, but his dam has a bad udder or is hard keeping. Then you will make good steers but females you won't want. Make sure the bull you are using is ahead of his class in performance. length, and muscle, but both he and his dam are the right size to keep your cows in check. If you go to big, then your cows will be to heavy and harder keeping, and if they are to small, then you loose performance, length, and if your not careful, muscle. Stay in the middle and you will get great cows, and steers that will be in demand. BUT, what ever you do, make sure your cattle are sound! I see bad feet way to often.
 
gcreekrch said:
Shortgrass said:
Calving ease/maternal will be more profitable every time. If you want to go purebred, you just have witnessed where the demand is. Of coarse there are a lot of goat people chiming in, but they are on track!
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Wait til I show you the result of crossing a high performance .22 on this fine little goat. :wink:


What does a person season a goat with? :?
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Timberwolf!!!!!!
 
I agree with keeping a good maternal herd. Steers are just
by-products. With high maternal, you can breed the heifers
or sell them. 2 options makes it nice.
I think bulls like Black Cedar are middle of the road and
won't get you in trouble. There are others out there that can
do the same thing. Just stay away from the bull of the month fad.

If I were you, I would certainly check out Dennys Viking GD60
bulls. Those cattle are clean and have certainly stood the test
of time. There aren't many around any more, but they are good
cattle in virtually every way, IMO.


Good luck!
 

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