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Posted December 15, 2013 - 6:44pm Updated December 15, 2013 - 11:19pm


National Finals Rodeo to leave Las Vegas


By ALAN SNEL
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL



Las Vegas lost the prized National Finals Rodeo when the Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association board voted 6-3 Sunday to reject Sin City's offer to keep the NFR past 2014 and to pursue a more lucrative offer to move the Super Bowl of rodeo to Central Florida near Disney World and Orlando.

Less than 24 hours after the NFR completed its 29th year in Las Vegas, the Osceola County Commission met at noon Sunday to approve a memorandum of understanding with the PRCA.

The county near Orlando, which is the gateway to Disney World and home to the biggest rodeos east of the Mississippi River, will provide $16 million in annual purses and administrative costs as well as a new 24,000-seat arena. The board of the Colorado Springs, Colo.-based PRCA voted to pursue the Orlando area as the NFR's new home.

In a statement, PRCA Commissioner Karl Stressman said, "The PRCA Board did not vote to leave Las Vegas; the vote was made strictly on the content of the current offer. The PRCA continues to carefully consider offers from all potential WNFR hosts."

Pat Christenson, president of Las Vegas Events, which is funded by the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority and promotes the NFR, called the move "a big mistake."

"There's not another market for the NFR like Las Vegas," Christenson said. "It's difficult to go further than what we've given them. We gave them everything there is."

In a statement about the PRCA board decision, Las Vegas Events said, "Osceola County exceeded LVE's offer by more than $4 million. We are disappointed that the PRCA has chosen to pursue a completely speculative offer versus Las Vegas' proven 29-year track record."

Christenson did not appreciate PRCA's saying it did not reject Las Vegas.

"At some point, they have to decide they want to be in Las Vegas and that was today," Christenson said. "They have a MOU (memorandum of understanding) with another market. Our interpretation is that they rejected our offer, and they're moving on."

Christenson said Las Vegas Events already is working on its own championship rodeo event to be held in December 2015.

"We will not give up the two weeks in December that we have held for the last 29 years," Christenson said.

In a statement, Las Vegas Events said, "Now that we know the PRCA's true intentions, we will put our full effort into developing a new Series and Finals. For almost 30 years, we have developed a loyal fan base that calls Las Vegas home for the first two weeks in December. We are confident our new 'Finals' will exceed all expectations."

Meanwhile in Osceola County, county commissioners voted 5-0 on the financial package to lure the NFR from Las Vegas.

"We put together a package we thought would be very competitive," Osceola County Commission Chairman Fred Hawkins, Jr. told the Review-Journal. "We'd love to have them."

Hawkins said the NFR's new host county is a "family-oriented area" and "our county does not have gambling."

The PRCA deal with Osceola County is a 20-year agreement but either side may pull out after 10 years, with three years notice, Hawkins said. The 2015 NFR is to be held at the Orlando Magic's NBA arena in downtown Orlando, and at a new arena built near the Gaylord Palms Resort and Convention Center in Osceola County in 2016, Hawkins said.

The memorandum of understanding allows 90 days to close the deal.

The loss of the rodeo is a major blow to Las Vegas because hundreds of thousands of visitors fill hotel rooms and restaurants in December when business slows down on the Strip and around Sin City. The 10-day event pumps at least $60 million of spending into the Las Vegas economy each year.

Christenson said NFR fans will have to pay about 40 percent more for tickets in central Florida than they have paid for the 10 days of rodeo at the sold-out Thomas &Mack Center at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas.

The average NFR ticket is about $75 each for a lower bowl seat and about $55 for an upper bowl seat, Christenson said.

"Adding an additional $4 million to the budget would require a 40 percent increase in ticket prices," Las Vegas Events said in its statement. "That is not sustainable. We have to balance the demands of the PRCA with the consequence of pricing our fans out of the market.

"In fact, LVE does not generate a profit from the NFR. All revenue generated from the NFR including ticket sales, Cowboy Christmas, local sponsorship sales and a $2 million LVCVA and LVE rights fee, go directly to the contestants and the PRCA."

The NFR's daily Cowboy Christmas/FanFest event at the Las Vegas Convention Center drew record attendance for the 10-day run as 196,698 people checked out exhibits and cowboy displays. The attendance at the convention center during the Dec. 5-14 NFR was more than 10,000 higher than last year's 186,100. The NFR fanfest event debuted alongside the retail Cowboy Christmas in 2012.

The Cowboy Christmas/FanFest total attendance of 196,698 at the convention center exceeded the 10-day attendance of 176,558. The NFR set an event attendance record on the final night Saturday, when 18,242 fans packed the arena.


Lots of rumors flying about this... Some say its a done deal- others say its still in negotiations and the PRCA is just trying to get Vegas to put up more money....
Be interesting to see what happens- but I personally think the PRCA would be a fool to move out of Vegas...
 
Nothing has been decided, YET.
An offer from Florida is being entertained, but only entertained at this point. The offer from Florida was $4 million more than LVE was offering. That kind of dough.in Vegas is chump change.
The PRCA wants more money for the contestants...they think the purses aren't enough anymore when compared to other sports. (Which is true). Time will tell what will happen in 2015.
The only mistake the PRCA made for sure is moving the telecast from GAC to CBS Sports Network.
 
I would hate to see it leave Vegas. I just love going there for the finals. I don't go very often but they offer so much to make the NFR experience that much better. You can gamble if you choose, go to world class shows and concerts, and just see the sights. I call it an adults playground and that doesn't mean you have to do all the negative things either. Plus I like the idea of keeping it in the western states, I love flying into Vegas and seeing the big metropolis and yet there is absolutely nothing around it.
 
Maybe they are looking for something for the whole family to do. One thing about Vegas there's not much for the kids to do.Very few pools have water in them in December in vegas so the kids can't swim early december in Florida you can sit in the pool all night if you like. But I'd rather it stay in Vegas as the Night Life is what makes the rodeo.
 
As one old bronc rider told me, it won't be the same with the NFR sponsor being orange juice instead of Black Velvet or Pendleton Whiskey... Broncs like Sippin' Velvet will now be Sippin' Sunkist... :wink:
 
Oldtimer said:
As one old bronc rider told me, it won't be the same with the NFR sponsor being orange juice instead of Black Velvet or Pendleton Whiskey... Broncs like Sippin' Velvet will now be Sippin' Sunkist... :wink:

If I'm not mistaken, Black Velvet & Pendleton are CANADIAN whiskeys...you know, from the country Old Blowhard has a big problem with......

FWIW, NOTHING has been decided yet, except the telecast won't be on GAC next year.
 
loomixguy said:
Oldtimer said:
As one old bronc rider told me, it won't be the same with the NFR sponsor being orange juice instead of Black Velvet or Pendleton Whiskey... Broncs like Sippin' Velvet will now be Sippin' Sunkist... :wink:

If I'm not mistaken, Black Velvet & Pendleton are CANADIAN whiskeys...you know, from the country Old Blowhard has a big problem with......

FWIW, NOTHING has been decided yet, except the telecast won't be on GAC next year.

Well if you had ever had the gonads to climb on a bucking horse it would probably fit perfectly in a city like Orlando--- be called Cow Candy Prune Juicer.... :wink: :P :lol:

Canada has long been a big player in RCA/PRCA rodeo- both with good contestants and especially with good stock... 40+ years ago I loved traveling thruout the Canadian circuit- good horses- good contestants... Which I hope plays into the decision to move it thousands of mile from the location of those contestants, stock, and fans !

It was disappointing this year to see that Canada had only one contestant in the finals... Part of it is still the old "politics" game- played within rodeo politics...
 
Too bad they are leaving GAC I have found they are a good match. I like being able to watch all ten rounds. I wonder if cbs sports televise all ten rounds?
 
That's unbelievable. My wife and I were watching round 10 and talking about that it might be fun to go to Vegas and watch it live and maybe see some of the shows. Now there's a chance it will be in my backyard.

Not sure how you could make it pay in the O'rena, it's a rather small venue for basketball.

Denny, maybe some of you from north of the Mason Dixon might hang around a pool in Florida in December, but the water is quite cold at this time of the year and the pools won't be heated. Who knows, our winter might be equivalent to your summers.
 
It is my understanding that LVE asked the PRCA for a 30 day period for further negotiations.

It's kinda like wondering if someone's preggers. Time will tell.....and there isn't a damned thing we can do about what the PRCA finally decides.

This is fact, not innuendo and half truths that the OP cut and pasted.
 
I think contestants are paid plenty so if they're doing this for more purse money it's foolish. When a barrel racer can run around the country chasing cans year round and make over $100,000, I'd say she's doing just fine. People screaming for more money than that is the main problem with this world today - greed.
 
Sponsors help defray some cost to the contestants, but a timed eventer earning $100K in a season is probably just breaking even, what with $4 diesel and a hefty truck/trailer payment. You could run through close to $2K/week in expenses, fuel, food, entry fees, vet/shoer bills, grain & hay. The money won at the Finals is actually their profit for the year.

$100K in winnings sounds like a lot, but it really isn't.
 
cracker hand said:
That's unbelievable. My wife and I were watching round 10 and talking about that it might be fun to go to Vegas and watch it live and maybe see some of the shows. Now there's a chance it will be in my backyard.

Not sure how you could make it pay in the O'rena, it's a rather small venue for basketball.

Denny, maybe some of you from north of the Mason Dixon might hang around a pool in Florida in December, but the water is quite cold at this time of the year and the pools won't be heated. Who knows, our winter might be equivalent to your summers.

Well you better warm them up as I'll be there a week from today mama needs a little sun and sand. :wink:
 
loomixguy said:
Sponsors help defray some cost to the contestants, but a timed eventer earning $100K in a season is probably just breaking even, what with $4 diesel and a hefty truck/trailer payment. You could run through close to $2K/week in expenses, fuel, food, entry fees, vet/shoer bills, grain & hay. The money won at the Finals is actually their profit for the year.

$100K in winnings sounds like a lot, but it really isn't.

:agree:
 
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/kats-report/2013/dec/16/vegas-ready-sweep-out-wnfr-prca-says-hang-there-co/

An interesting read. I'd say The American is coming to town. Way to go Spud!
 
I don't like to see the NFR leave vegas but you have to give credit the Prca for looking out for the contestants. they are the ones paying the dues . when I was riding bulls 10 years ago a permit was 200 bucks I'm sure it has went up since. on a side note I love watching the Nfr saddle bronc riding because wade sundell was in the Iowa rodeo cowboys association finals with me in the bullriding he of a good guy and lots of fun.
 

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