Thanks for the info on CLD. RR are awesome dogs but I have worked with them before and I'm looking for something new. They were/are still bred to hunt loins and they do a very good job of it. They do tend to have a deep hate for anything cat....the ones I have worked with couldn't be trusted around the barn cats. RR's tend to be very one person/family dogs so I also do not think that it would be a great choice to train and try to place in a new home. I'll have to look up the breeders that were listed above and see what I find. I know one in ND does not use their dogs so I'm leary about getting one from them...hard to know if the dog will work if they don't work the dogs they are breeding.