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QH Bloodlines ?'s

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I have never been very big into bloodlines so forgive me if anything I ask is a DUH doesn't everyone know that kind of thing.

If you read my post about my summer projects then you know I got a new filly. I have tossed around the idea of maybe breeding her. ( not anytime soon) I had her tested for HERDA and she is N/N "thank goodness" She has IMO to many crosses into the same lines. So I have been trying to find studs that DO NOT carry any Poco Bueno, Dry Doc, Doc O'Lena, Great Pine, Zippo Pine Bar, Doc Bar, King, Three Bars or Impressive blood. I'm finding this is not that easy of a task! Have these bloodlines been that heavily used? Where have all the Leo, Wimpy, Bert....other old lines gone too? Have they been that over looked that they are hard to find? I'm not to picky on what the stud has to have....Good conformation, nice personality and a stable working mind. I don't want a halter horse or a thin TB looking stud...oh sorry I meant to say refined stud. I want that old thick bone, solid build and that old do everything horse not a horse thats bred to do just one thing. I'm open just about any color, tho I would prefer to stay away from grays and roans, nothing personal I would just like the resulting foal not to be gray or roan. Lineback duns (any color), Grullo & Blacks that are Homo. for the black gene will get looked at 1st. I will not spend over 1800.00 for a stud fee. I'm not worried about sale value of the foal as I would be keeping it for myself. Any studs come to mind?
 
I've got a friend that has an older foundation bred QH he's a bay and has alot of bone to him.Were breeding 3 mares to him next year I can find out his pedigree if you want.His stud fee is alot lower than $1800 more like $200
 
Denny...I would be interested in learning about the stud. Oh, and the stud fee does not HAVE to be 1800.00 that is just my top dollar limit the lower it is the better!

I should also add that is does not need to be a foundation stud it can be a modern stud with todays lines as long as he does not carry any of the above listed excluded lines.

:lol: JIGS :shock:
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I will not breed my mare to JIGS, I don't care how low the stud fee is!
 
I'd like to see the pedigree on your mare, that would give a better idea on what lines you'd want to look at for a cross.
Don't be afraid of the Poco Bueno breds, just ask the stud owner if the stud they're standing has been HERDA tested and ask to see the test results. If he's tested N/N then there won't be a problem, neither your mare or stallion will pass on the HERDA gene. Stay away from breeders that don't or won't have their breeding stock tested. Kudos to you for having your filly tested. :)

I've had my stallion tested and he is N/N. If I decide to breed any of my mares in the spring I will also have them tested before breeding season.
 
Here are my filly's lines.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/olenas+dun+with+doc
IMO I think she has more than enough crosses into the Doc Bar bloodline, She is lighter on the poco line but it is still a bloodline I wish to stay away from. To be honest it has nothing to do with HERDA or Poco Bueno as a horse. The bloodlines I wish to stay away from honestly have nothing to do with the horses themselves, they have all shown wonderful talent my problem is that EVERYONE is using these lines. I would like to bring some "other" blood into the mix. I understand line breeding but I think at time there gets to be just way to much of a good thing and that is when you start seeing genetic flaws or mutations of genes. HERDA, HYPP, GBED,etc.
 
The Bully Bullion horses are good ones. You should be able to find
a son of his that wouldn't be too spendy.

I first heard of Bully Bullion from my friend in Aubrey, Texas who
trains horses. The Bully's have good strong feet and legs and have
wonderful attitudes. They make rope horses, barrell horses, just
really some nice horses.

Here's what I found and you are in luck--$1500 stud fee for the old
man himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He has a lot of TB in his background, but they aren't spindly
I can guarantee you that. I know if I had a mare, this is one
I would consider first--and I like nice horses.

I think he would put some wither back--and many horses with the
bloodlines of your filly need more wither...IMO...

Good Luck!!

Bully Bullion

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Stallion Show Record for Bully Bullion
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Stallion Specialties: Barrel Racing, Race
Stallion Info: Breeding Fee: $1,500; Shipped Semen;

Location: Belle Mere Farm; Dee & Betty Raper; Norman, OK; 73072-2201; 405-447-8500;
Owner Info: Jean Chavers;
 
Thanks for the info. I'll go give him a look.

I think he would put some wither back--and many horses with the bloodlines of your filly need more wither...IMO...
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I couldn't agree more~ I don't mind a stocky horse but if I'm going to be cutting, sorting,penning,etc. I want something that I can "stick" a saddle on. The term mutton withered was never intended to be a compliment and used to be a rather major fault in the eyes of horseman. I really wish more people would have listened to the ol timers wisdom, they knew what they were talking about, They bred horses to USE in everyday life.

Thankfully so far my filly seems to have some wither there but I know that can change as they grow and fill out...
 
I think there is a Bully Bullion son in Baker, Mt. I could check it out if you were interested further.

Jigger boss, I agree with you on both bloodlines. I do know a fellow
who has trained a lot of King Fritz horses and he says you want the
King Fritz on the bottom side, or they can be broncy.

Otoe horses I like.

I think you can find some King Fritz bred horses in North Dakota.
Klatt Quarter Horses are close to Killdeer, might be Grassy Butte
in the phone book.

Call Glen Houghton, he can tell you all you need to know about
Klatt's horses and King Fritz. He knows for sure.

Good luck.
Send me a pm and I'll give you Glenn's phone number. He's a great
guy and one of ND's best horsemen.
 

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