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Question about fire guards.

Big Muddy rancher

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Empty pockets showed a picture of their fresh worked fire guards last week. It prompted me to get some of mine worked but was wondering if it is a place for invasive species to get started or does the fire protection outweigh that possibility?
 
Perhaps some sort of soil sterilent like they use on corn ground ( Atrizine? ) Seen what a fire through a yard does and don't blame you for being concerned usually hell of a mess to clean up afterwards.
 
Mixing Atrazine and Treflan would give preemergent protection against grasses and broadleafs.

Most folks around here that build fire breaks just hook a disc behind the tractor and take a ride 2-3 times a year.

Some even plant them in winter during the wet season and disc it again next summer.
 
Mike said:
Mixing Atrazine and Treflan would give preemergent protection against grasses and broadleafs.

Most folks around here that build fire breaks just hook a disc behind the tractor and take a ride 2-3 times a year.

Some even plant them in winter during the wet season and disc it again next summer.


Maybe i should try some winter carrots. :wink:
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
Mike said:
Mixing Atrazine and Treflan would give preemergent protection against grasses and broadleafs.

Most folks around here that build fire breaks just hook a disc behind the tractor and take a ride 2-3 times a year.

Some even plant them in winter during the wet season and disc it again next summer.


Maybe i should try some winter carrots. :wink:

Turnips and Collards would work too. :wink:
 
Mike said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Mike said:
Mixing Atrazine and Treflan would give preemergent protection against grasses and broadleafs.

Most folks around here that build fire breaks just hook a disc behind the tractor and take a ride 2-3 times a year.

Some even plant them in winter during the wet season and disc it again next summer.


Maybe i should try some winter carrots. :wink:

Turnips and Collards would work too. :wink:




Yummy!!!
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
Empty pockets showed a picture of their fresh worked fire guards last week. It prompted me to get some of mine worked but was wondering if it is a place for invasive species to get started or does the fire protection outweigh that possibility?



That a good question BMR. We've been doing fireguards since before I was born around here. I notice every year that something different is growing when we go over the last years guard. This year was mainly cheat grass, but it was all over already. Sometimes we change an area and do a new guard. When we do the native grass takes over within a year and is usually better. Our area is predominantly Western Wheat grass and buffalo grass.

This year I mowed and baled the fireguard in our winter country before going over it with a disk. It sure worked up nicer doing this. Even got a few bales.

It's a no brainer for us to fireguard but your angle is something to think about. Our fireguards are also a road that shows where firetrucks can cross the creeks and big draws, and roads for hunters to stay on.

I like the idea Mike had about spraying. Don't have a sprayer but sounds like it would work. We'd never plant anything in them as it'd get's drove on year around and sometime we don't get wet seasons. These fireguards still come in handy during a dry winter and spring.
 
EmptyPockets said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Empty pockets showed a picture of their fresh worked fire guards last week. It prompted me to get some of mine worked but was wondering if it is a place for invasive species to get started or does the fire protection outweigh that possibility?



That a good question BMR. We've been doing fireguards since before I was born around here. I notice every year that something different is growing when we go over the last years guard. This year was mainly cheat grass, but it was all over already. Sometimes we change an area and do a new guard. When we do the native grass takes over within a year and is usually better. Our area is predominantly Western Wheat grass and buffalo grass.

This year I mowed and baled the fireguard in our winter country before going over it with a disk. It sure worked up nicer doing this. Even got a few bales.

It's a no brainer for us to fireguard but your angle is something to think about. Our fireguards are also a road that shows where firetrucks can cross the creeks and big draws, and roads for hunters to stay on.

I like the idea Mike had about spraying. Don't have a sprayer but sounds like it would work. We'd never plant anything in them as it'd get's drove on year around and sometime we don't get wet seasons. These fireguards still come in handy during a dry winter and spring.

Hypothetical question... What would happen if you planted grazing alfalfa or another species of desireable grass in your fireguard and then put in new fireguard about 100 feet away. (or any distance) My question is would your new grass or grazing alfalfa fill in that space between fireguards over time or would it just grow where you plant it.

Food for thought

have a cold one

lazy ace
 

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