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I'm just curious.

My son and I rode down and roped and doctored 4 yearlings with footrot this evening.

How would you who only use 4 wheelers have doctored them?

Not trying to start a fight, just curious.
 
Only one post tonight...gotta bale a little later.

It's easy, I've done it lots of times and I'm really right handed. Take about
a 10' section of grey pvc pipe, run the rope through (inside) of it, tape the loop in place, black tape the coils to the rear rack, tie off to the rear rack or back axle...depending on size of critter, and just drop it over the head and turn away, and have somebody heel if necessary. Black tape keeps everything in place and breaks away as needed. I've done this over and over again for....years. I wouldn't try it with a little piece of crap ATV, use a big one.
 
I gave up trying to use an ATV, my wife bought me a nice buckstin Paint gelding to train to work cows. I'll have to give this technique a try
 
Depends JB.. Never had to do it with a yearling but did treat a bull once with it.. Either medidart him a couple times wth Nuflor (Depends on size of critter) or bring him in.. But for me that is easy as in the longest I would ever have to push a critter is probably 3/4 mile and usually would only be 1/4 and I can get that done pretty darn quick.. I could probably drop one in the field if I needed to for about 30 minutes but I don't like going that route unless it is a real stinking emergancy.. I have "roped" a 500 pounder using the quad and he was a yearling, but a Dexter and not a real sized cow.. We headed and healed himand than tossed him on his side to work him.. He was none to pleased but had a case of pink eye and was a bit cross and madder than a march hare.
 
Ben, practice and be real careful with that rope so we don't have to start calling you "lefty".

I've got a pretty little scar that looks like a ring, around the base of my thumb, from too short a rope and too fast of a calf and having my head stuffed in the lower end of my body instead of up on my shoulders where it's supposed to be.

When ropes are thrown, lots of times, things happen real real fast!
 
Where was your head again there JB? The mental picture I have just can't be correct :p :twisted:
 
I dally in the corral but outside i tie hard and fast you dont lose fingers that way ha ha . I wouldnt rope anything off of a 4 wheeler but then again i dont work in places that you can really catch up to one on a 4 wheeler either with the trees and brush but i guess how i can see that it would work without to much effort if your in a flat pasture . I would still rather just catch them horse back and tie them down and doctor them .
 
Saw the remains of a quad somebody roped and tied hard too-they are good for fencing and dragging dead moose out of muskkegs but not for treating cattle. We bury a couple guys a year up here using them for purposes other than what they are made for.
 
Yeah i have never seen quads used much in this country for anything other than huntin or just joyriding , i wouldnt never try to rope anything off of them thats for sure like i said before a guy is better off horse back when it comes to cattle . I have seen a few places use them for checkin fence and runnin runnin gates or puttin out salt cause they save gas rather than usin a pickup but i am a horse back guy i like to pack salt on mules or horses trot around my fences and work cattle horse back . To my way of thinkin any how and this is my two cents and take it for what its worth but if you dont have time to work cattle horse back then you got way to many things goin on and should maybe just pick one thing your good at and stick with that . I hear alot of storys of these guys using 4 wheelers to work cattle and seems to me like they can out move ya if they really wanna get away from you , unless your like cal and your a cow ropin 4 wheeler ridin evil kaneevil hahaha .
 
Jinglebob said:
I'm just curious.

My son and I rode down and roped and doctored 4 yearlings with footrot this evening.

How would you who only use 4 wheelers have doctored them?

Not trying to start a fight, just curious.
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Faster Horses would tell you to feed vigortone to prevent the footrot. :wink:
 
Cal said:
Only one post tonight...gotta bale a little later.

It's easy, I've done it lots of times and I'm really right handed. Take about
a 10' section of grey pvc pipe, run the rope through (inside) of it, tape the loop in place, black tape the coils to the rear rack, tie off to the rear rack or back axle...depending on size of critter, and just drop it over the head and turn away, and have somebody heel if necessary. Black tape keeps everything in place and breaks away as needed. I've done this over and over again for....years. I wouldn't try it with a little piece of crap ATV, use a big one.
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Not to pick a fight with you Cal, but you must be very athletic. I would be pushin' daisies if I tried that.
 
Because I have no intention of roping a 2200 lb bull (call me chicken, I'm ok with that), and would rather not spend the day walking home for 10 miles, I find the best/handiest way for those deals is a deal (cant remember what its called... medidart?) like a jousters lance. Got a spring loaded syringe in the end of it tied to a string. You scoot up to the animal on the conveyance of your choice and stab it in the butt. Said animal has the option of doing nothing or running off. Syringe stays in animal until payload is delivered, then pops out. There is about 150' of string connecting the lance to the syringe, and it even winds itself back up. Pretty handy really.
 
Back in the early 1990's, I was summering 200 head of yearling heifers about thirty miles from home. One afternoon, I hauled salt and mineral to these heifers and was looking them over. They all strung in to eat the feed, as the bunks were empty. There were sure four head that had footrot. It was already the middle of the afternoon, and it was thirty miles back to the ranch to get horses and my hired hand to help me rope and doctor these heifers. Then it was another thirty mile trip back to where the heifers were summering. Taking inventory, I realized that there was already a bottle of LA-200 in the pickup and a good syringe. Behind the seat there were two ropes.

The heifers were all crowded around the salt bunks, so I took one rope and slipped a loop on a heifer's neck. She spooked and took off, but I moseyed back to the pickup and drove easily up behind her. I was able to get one of the front tires of the pickup over the top of the dragging rope. This held her in place so that she could only go back and forth around the pickup. I was able to get the other rope on one hind leg and tie it off to the 2 inch trailer hitch ball. I drove slowly ahead until the rope came tight and drug the heifer until she went down. Using the rope that was on her neck, I tied her hind feet together which immobilized her until I could get forty cc's of LA-200 into her.

I turned her loose and tried it on the next heifer. That worked similarily, so I did it on the other two also. The whole endeavor probably took a couple hours, and the two ropes got scuffed up pretty bad before the job was done. I was kind of proud to get the four heifers all doctored by myself, without the help of a horse.

Not sure if this is what you were looking for in an answer to your question, Jinglebob, but it was done with a "four-wheeler" (pickup, that is). :wink: :) The concept of how well a rubber tire holds a rope when pressing it firmly against the ground is partly how our "calf trap" branding gizmos came about.
 
Four wheelers have a place on the ranch,roping cattle is not one of them,I guess I use mine for about everything else,not sure Im priveledged enough to know anyone that ropes cattle off a 4 wheeler :D
reading soaps response about roping heifers and doctoring em reminded me of the time or two I would have a cow needing attention aways from the pens,take my open stationed tractor and slip a rope other her head let her settle a bit then drive over the rope,take the end and tie it to the draw bar,drive slow ,she will follow................good luck
 
i have seen some folks here in this flat famer country roping and doctoring yearlings on a farmerwheeler
the prossess looked real simple to me
they cut the calf out of the bunch "on the run while scattering the rest"
then they tear up alot of grass or wheat while they run the poor calf half to death till it slows down enough that they can heel it with the rope tied to the back of the farmerwheeler
they get him on the ground and then they doctor it

the farmerwheeler comes in real handy the next day when they come back they can drag it as it's most likly DEAD from all the stress on top of being sick

however i have seen some of these cowboys/farm hands do the same thing ahorseback
so i guess it all comes back to stockmanship
if you can doctor one on a farmerwheeler and not hurt him more power to ya
as for me if ya'll see me riding one of things PLEASE shoot me off of it as i have complely lost my mind
until later
jerry
 
I use a pneu-dart and 10cc of Naxcel. You can stand a good 30 ft away from cow and shoot her with the dart. Works well.
 
Soaps Story reminds me of doctoring a Hiefer for Pink-eye....


I had them at a Cutting horse trainers, no Chute there. They had called me about thi one hiefer. I pulled up just after they had put the horses up. This one bigger guy that wieghs about 270 and all muscle says, "No Problem".....His dad had cowboyed...errr..buckarooed, LOL......A lotin Nevada.


Anyways. he ropes the hiefer in a corral. I can't remember if he dallyed on a post a bit or just bogged down, but at some point he flips the rope over her hip and then around her fronat and back behind her but. As she pulled she kinda snugged the rope until she either went down or we tailed her down......

LOL, I say I remember, but I seem to have forgotten a lot on this deal.....Anyways, granted he was big, but he used a lot of leverage and her pulling basically resulted in her tieing herself up more,


Pat
 
I ride the 4wheeler out to the pasture get off and walk up to withinn 30-50 feet and shot with the dart gun. Not real exciting but it works good and it is easy.
 

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