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Ranch Truck

I have a few friends in Wyoming who will never own a dually. They do not track well up there on those roads in the snow. Down here, however, i would never own a SRW. I almost lost my life and the life of 2 of my roping horses because of a blowout on the interstate. Duallys have their place for handling. If you really want to know the difference, hook up to a SRW with a 40' ground load and then hook that same load to a dually. There is no comparison. I can move over 30000 lb loads with my truck (its only slightly modded :D ). ive never seen a SRW do that.
 
I priced out some M/T's for me chevy half ton. $975 installed and balanced was the cheapest they came, and they were Kelly Safaris, if I remember. I kept my Daytom M/T's until wires were showing, then I put the old A/t's on it and sold it. Even /$150 for one tire for my car is a bit much..
 
I don't think anyone would have any business attempting to hook a 40' ground load trailer to a single axle pickup. :shock: Just doesn't make any sense. Dually pickups don't handle a lot of the conditions in a lot of the ranch country that you'd want to pull a stock trailer in. Then again, if the highway and higher speeds are a majority of your game, then I can see the safety factor and stability of the dually.

HP
 
High Plains said:
I don't think anyone would have any business attempting to hook a 40' ground load trailer to a single axle pickup. :shock: Just doesn't make any sense. Dually pickups don't handle a lot of the conditions in a lot of the ranch country that you'd want to pull a stock trailer in. Then again, if the highway and higher speeds are a majority of your game, then I can see the safety factor and stability of the dually.

HP
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We pull our trailers in the marshes and rice fields where our cattle are. I just put 6 toyo m/t on my dually for $2500 My buddy just put Interco m16 on his dually for $2200. ALL of our pulling is down mud roads, flooded fields, and the coast of Louisiana. Down here, a dually is the only way to go. Those two extra tires help the truck "float" in the mud. We all have wider dually tires with spacers to help hold the weight. I know we dont deal with snow and rocks alot, but if we didnt have 4wd duallys, we wouldnt get anywhere. In fact the dealership by my house hasnt sold a 2wd dually in 3 years.
 
One thing that I don't believe that has ever been discussed here,
is Mr. FH says they have these pickups so they will pull fast, but they
don't have much to slow them down; he's talking about brakes.
He's had an exhaust brake put on every pickup we have had since 1998
and he uses it...a lot...
 
Faster horses said:
One thing that I don't believe that has ever been discussed here,
is Mr. FH says they have these pickups so they will pull fast, but they
don't have much to slow them down; he's talking about brakes.
He's had an exhaust brake put on every pickup we have had since 1998
and he uses it...a lot...
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This is very true. My dodge has an exhaust brake on it. I use it for every trailer no matter how small. Also most of the auto transmissions nowadays have the shift mode, which i believe should be used when pulling to hold gears. After Suncoast finished my auto trans, i was very surprised at the power this thing had. It shifts so much better and downshift very well with a load. add that to the exhaust brake and my truck does a great job of stopping. There have been times i wished i had some bigger brakes though.
 
Faster horses said:
One thing that I don't believe that has ever been discussed here,
is Mr. FH says they have these pickups so they will pull fast, but they
don't have much to slow them down; he's talking about brakes.
He's had an exhaust brake put on every pickup we have had since 1998
and he uses it...a lot...
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FH I have an 05 chevy 1 ton crew cab dually 4x4. I just replaced the original brakes left side had 50 percent left. Right side was close to 35 percent why the difference I DO NOT KNOW.

I do know this my truck has 183k on i. The engine does more braking for me than the brakes do.

I had an 02 same truck got rid of it with 117k you could hardly see any wear on the breaks. the Allison transmission and the duramax are a team. I replaced the front rotors and they really did not need it. Guy told me to have them turned just because I was putting new brakes on. I put both rotors on brand new for 70 bucks.

I did all the work myself and the only reason I replaced the brakes at this time was I had a front hub bearing seize up so while I had it tore down I did the brakes.

When I am exiting the interstate its rare for me to touch the brakes till I reach the end of the ramp. Lots of the time I have 20k behind me and I still rarely touch the brakes before I reach the end of the ramp.
 
PF he wasn't meaning how long the brakes last, he meant how long it
takes to slow down with a load...and he knows, because he pulls
a heavy load most of the time. He's like Robin, exhaust brake helps
and he wouldn't be without one, but sometimes he wishes he had more.
His is a 6 speed.
 
RobinFarmandRanch said:
High Plains said:
I don't think anyone would have any business attempting to hook a 40' ground load trailer to a single axle pickup. :shock: Just doesn't make any sense. Dually pickups don't handle a lot of the conditions in a lot of the ranch country that you'd want to pull a stock trailer in. Then again, if the highway and higher speeds are a majority of your game, then I can see the safety factor and stability of the dually.

HP
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We pull our trailers in the marshes and rice fields where our cattle are. I just put 6 toyo m/t on my dually for $2500 My buddy just put Interco m16 on his dually for $2200. ALL of our pulling is down mud roads, flooded fields, and the coast of Louisiana. Down here, a dually is the only way to go. Those two extra tires help the truck "float" in the mud. We all have wider dually tires with spacers to help hold the weight. I know we dont deal with snow and rocks alot, but if we didnt have 4wd duallys, we wouldnt get anywhere. In fact the dealership by my house hasnt sold a 2wd dually in 3 years.
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Just goes to show that there are different applications under different environments. I've never seen a rice field :!:
 
If you will notice most of the larger trucking companies and dump trucks are going to "super singles" I have found I carry much less mud onto the roads and do not get stuck near as often with the super singles. This is a real issue when going into construction sites as you can lose money very fast if you are getting pulled and fines can be high for carrying mud onto the roads.

The cost seems to be a trade off about $575.00 for a super single ( 425 X 22.5 )to replace two $300.00 (11R 22.5 ) I also took about 1000# off each tri axle dup truck by replacing 12 11R 22.5 tires and wheels with 6 425 22.5 super singles - - - fuel milage is better with the singles as well as most of the rolling resistance is from the sidewalls and there are half as many.

I started with a 1978 chevy 4X4 one ton with singles ( my livestock trailer had a 7' X 30' box ) and have never owned a dually pick-up. I have pulled with many and have driven many and I feel the singles are what I want!
 
Here is a picture( i hope) of my favorite ranch truck, goes anywhere and does't leave a track.
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You should have that roll bar come right over to the back then if you went down a steep hill and it tipped forward it would just keep going right back on it's wheels. :D

In three or four revolutions. :shock: :D :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Those little pasture trucks are neat. However, my official first truck and only pasture truck is an '83 Ford gas hog. It's nice and light so the pasture ain't too hard on it.
 
bverellen said:
Just goes to show that there are different applications under different environments. I've never seen a rice field :!:
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Aside from the retention dikes, they're not real hilly :wink:
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This is true. No hills down here where i live. Im a flatlander. and it dont take long to find water underground. Theres a reason we bury our deceased 6 ft over.
 

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