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I knew you'd dance around your "free trim" ignorant statement but I asked for entertainment purposes anyway.

There is nothing worse than to try to explain something to someone who doesn't have the capacity to understand it. Hopefully someone out there is reading this that can benefit from the explanation but it certainly won't be Conman.

First, backfat and marbling tend to go hand in hand with most British breed based cattle. Packers number one priority is for higher grading carcasses and the backfat is a byproduct of that. Packers pay premiums for leaner carcasses but the premiums for higher grading cattle are higher than the premiums for higher yielding cattle. This results in more 50/50 trim than if Y3 carcasses were discounted.

First you say if packers were paying for leaner carcasses the trim would be free. That didn't even make sense. Now you say that the trim isn't free. WORSE YET, YOU ARE NOT EVEN SMART ENOUGH TO REALIZE THAT MOST OF THE 50/50 TRIM RESULTS FROM TRIMMING FAT, NOT LEAN. Now you are trying to backpeddle on your stupidity by explaining it off with more cheap talk.

50/50 trim has a value of $.08 per pound if it is not blended with lean trimmings. If you blend enough cheap lean trimmings with it to make it 70/30 ground beef, it has far more value than the fat value $.08 per pound. NOBODY WANTS A HAMBURGER THAT IS 50% FAT. If the packers made it into dogfood as some moron suggested, that would devalue the carcass further.

Less trim cattle? What the hell does that mean? It's scary to think that this makes sense to you.

Imports add to the value of our carcasses by adding value to our lean trim. That is an undisputed fact.

Cattle are bidding up on higher grading cattle particularly when there is a shortage (via choice/select spread). You probably don't even know what the choice/select spread is do you?

What you fail to understand is that backfat and marbling tend to go hand in hand so if they discount the fat too severely, they will have less choice carcasses. Another example of just how little you know about this industry.

Oh, now the packers might be bidding up LEANER CATTLE to discriminate against the cash market? Haha! Phone tapped again?

Listen, the packers don't need an idiot like you telling them how to run their business. I doubt they are into self destruction.

Yada Yada Yada!

Pickett never proved a damn thing! The judge overruled the jury's misunderstandings and his decision was upheld by the 11th circuit. The packer blamers lost. Get over it!

You still can't even get the fact that the burden of proof falls on the accuser, not the accused. It is not Tyson's responsibility to prove their innocense, it's the plaintiff's responsibility to prove Tyson's guilt. They couldn't do it so they lost.

As long as someone comes along to tell packer blamers like you what you want to hear, you will support it unconditionally. If someone comes along to present the facts and interpret the laws as they were intended and it's not what you wanted to hear, it will be a conspiracy. That's how conspiring minds like yours work. Pathetic too I might add.

Only a complete idiot would think that Tyson would allow their beef profits to decline in favor of poultry. Another example of your complete ignorance.

Typical of your conspiring mind. If they are large and successful, they must be corrupt. How pathetic.

The biggest threat to this industry is conspiracy theorists like you Conman. Make no mistake about that.

~SH~

<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 62015">I knew you&#039;d dance around your &quot;free trim&quot; ignorant statement but I asked for entertainment purposes anyway.There is nothing worse than to try to explain something to someone who doesn&#039;t have the capacity to understand it.&nbsp; Hopefully someone out there is reading this that can benefit from the explanation but it certainly won&#039;t be Conman.First, backfat and marbling tend to go hand in hand with most British breed based cattle.&nbsp; Packers number one priority is for higher grading carcasses and the backfat is a byproduct of that.&nbsp; Packers pay premiums for leaner carcasses but the premiums for higher grading cattle are higher than the premiums for higher yielding cattle.&nbsp; This results in more 50/50 trim than if Y3 carcasses were discounted.First you say if packers were paying for leaner carcasses the trim would be free.&nbsp; That didn&#039;t even make sense.&nbsp; Now you say that the trim isn&#039;t free.&nbsp; WORSE YET, YOU ARE NOT EVEN SMART ENOUGH TO REALIZE THAT MOST OF THE 50/50 TRIM RESULTS FROM TRIMMING FAT, NOT LEAN.&nbsp; Now you are trying to backpeddle on your stupidity by explaining it off with more cheap talk.50/50 trim has a value of $.08 per pound if it is not blended with lean trimmings.&nbsp; If you blend enough cheap lean trimmings with it to make it 70/30 ground beef, it has far more value than the fat value $.08 per pound.&nbsp; NOBODY WANTS A HAMBURGER THAT IS 50% FAT.&nbsp; If the packers made it into dogfood as some moron suggested, that would devalue the carcass further. &nbsp;Less trim cattle?&nbsp; What the hell does that mean?&nbsp; It&#039;s scary to think that this makes sense to you.Imports add to the value of our carcasses by adding value to our lean trim.&nbsp; That is an undisputed fact.Cattle are bidding up on higher grading cattle particularly when there is a shortage (via choice/select spread).&nbsp; You probably don&#039;t even know what the choice/select spread is do you?What you fail to understand is that backfat and marbling tend to go hand in hand so if they discount the fat too severely, they will have less choice carcasses.&nbsp; Another example of just how little you know about this industry.Oh, now the packers might be bidding up LEANER CATTLE to discriminate against the cash market?&nbsp; Haha!&nbsp; Phone tapped again?Listen, the packers don&#039;t need an idiot like you telling them how to run their business.&nbsp; I doubt they are into self destruction.Yada Yada Yada!Pickett never proved a damn thing!&nbsp; The judge overruled the jury&#039;s misunderstandings and his decision was upheld by the 11th circuit.&nbsp; The packer blamers lost.&nbsp; Get over it!You still can&#039;t even get the fact that the burden of proof falls on the accuser, not the accused.&nbsp; It is not Tyson&#039;s responsibility to prove their innocense, it&#039;s the plaintiff&#039;s responsibility to prove Tyson&#039;s guilt.&nbsp; They couldn&#039;t do it so they lost.&nbsp; As long as someone comes along to tell packer blamers like you what you want to hear, you will support it unconditionally.&nbsp; If someone comes along to present the facts and interpret the laws as they were intended and it&#039;s not what you wanted to hear, it will be a conspiracy.&nbsp; That&#039;s how conspiring minds like yours work.&nbsp; Pathetic too I might add.Only a complete idiot would think that Tyson would allow their beef profits to decline in favor of poultry.&nbsp;&nbsp; Another example of your complete ignorance.Typical of your conspiring mind.&nbsp; If they are large and successful, they must be corrupt.&nbsp; How pathetic.The biggest threat to this industry is conspiracy theorists like you Conman.&nbsp; Make no mistake about that.~SH~</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 62015"] I knew you'd dance around your "free trim" ignorant statement but I asked for entertainment purposes anyway. There is nothing worse than to try to explain something to someone who doesn't have the capacity to understand it. Hopefully someone out there is reading this that can benefit from the explanation but it certainly won't be Conman. First, backfat and marbling tend to go hand in hand with most British breed based cattle. Packers number one priority is for higher grading carcasses and the backfat is a byproduct of that. Packers pay premiums for leaner carcasses but the premiums for higher grading cattle are higher than the premiums for higher yielding cattle. This results in more 50/50 trim than if Y3 carcasses were discounted. First you say if packers were paying for leaner carcasses the trim would be free. That didn't even make sense. Now you say that the trim isn't free. WORSE YET, YOU ARE NOT EVEN SMART ENOUGH TO REALIZE THAT MOST OF THE 50/50 TRIM RESULTS FROM TRIMMING FAT, NOT LEAN. Now you are trying to backpeddle on your stupidity by explaining it off with more cheap talk. 50/50 trim has a value of $.08 per pound if it is not blended with lean trimmings. If you blend enough cheap lean trimmings with it to make it 70/30 ground beef, it has far more value than the fat value $.08 per pound. NOBODY WANTS A HAMBURGER THAT IS 50% FAT. If the packers made it into dogfood as some moron suggested, that would devalue the carcass further. Less trim cattle? What the hell does that mean? It's scary to think that this makes sense to you. Imports add to the value of our carcasses by adding value to our lean trim. That is an undisputed fact. Cattle are bidding up on higher grading cattle particularly when there is a shortage (via choice/select spread). You probably don't even know what the choice/select spread is do you? What you fail to understand is that backfat and marbling tend to go hand in hand so if they discount the fat too severely, they will have less choice carcasses. Another example of just how little you know about this industry. Oh, now the packers might be bidding up LEANER CATTLE to discriminate against the cash market? Haha! Phone tapped again? Listen, the packers don't need an idiot like you telling them how to run their business. I doubt they are into self destruction. Yada Yada Yada! Pickett never proved a damn thing! The judge overruled the jury's misunderstandings and his decision was upheld by the 11th circuit. The packer blamers lost. Get over it! You still can't even get the fact that the burden of proof falls on the accuser, not the accused. It is not Tyson's responsibility to prove their innocense, it's the plaintiff's responsibility to prove Tyson's guilt. They couldn't do it so they lost. As long as someone comes along to tell packer blamers like you what you want to hear, you will support it unconditionally. If someone comes along to present the facts and interpret the laws as they were intended and it's not what you wanted to hear, it will be a conspiracy. That's how conspiring minds like yours work. Pathetic too I might add. Only a complete idiot would think that Tyson would allow their beef profits to decline in favor of poultry. Another example of your complete ignorance. Typical of your conspiring mind. If they are large and successful, they must be corrupt. How pathetic. The biggest threat to this industry is conspiracy theorists like you Conman. Make no mistake about that. ~SH~ [/QUOTE]

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