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Seats on NCBA board

Tommy

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April 12, 2007

The following is in response to my asking an investigative reporter to clarify facts regarding NCBA & Packers. Roni Bell Sylvester

Re: Your question about the NCBA board NCBA likes to tout that a majority of its board is made up of cow/calf and stocker operators. Here are the facts. Seats on the NCBA board must be purchased. You can visit the NCBA website to find out the current pricing for board seats, but if I remember correctly the base price for the first seat is $10,000. Additional seats are much higher.

States like Kansas, Iowa, Texas, Nebraska and California - where cattle feeding is concentrated - collect involuntary dues from people who feed in NCBA affiliated feedlots. The dues are simply collected on yardage invoices. Therefore, these states have far more money than other states like the northern plains where cattle feeding is not concentrated. NCBA affiliates in those states purchase multiple seats on the board. Texas Cattle Feeders, Kansas Livestock Association, Nebraska Cattlemen, Iowa Cattlemen, California Cattlemen collectively hold enough votes on the NCBA board to control policy. Other states simply do not have the money to spend buying enough voting seats to effect policy.

The packers do NOT need to have a majority of seats on the NCBA board in order to control things and they don't. They simply show up at the meeting, parade down the aisle and sit in the front of the room, turn their chairs around and stare at those feeding states and guess what? The feeding states vote as dictated when the vice presidents of major packer's cattle procurement divisions are watching

The NCBA board is divided into two divisions - policy and federation. We used to call it dues and checkoff. What I just referred to in the paragraphs above is the dues side, which sets policy. The federation (or checkoff) division is structured the same way, meaning that votes are purchased on the federation side of the NCBA board. States use checkoff funds to purchase those voting seats. Again, the feeding states have control because that's where the most cattle transactions take place, putting the money (and control) into their hands.

A number of times over the years there's been movements to attempt to change the structure at NCBA and all have failed. It's simply impossible to out vote those in control. Texas Cattle Feeders Association, for example, sinks hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of dollars each year into seats on both sides of the NCBA board. So does KLA. Collectively all the other member states don't have enough votes to out vote them. Colorado Cattlemen's Association I believe holds three voting seats currently compared to TCFA's 19 or 20 - just on the dues side.
 
" Texas Cattle Feeders Association, for example, sinks hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of dollars each year into seats on both sides of the NCBA board. So does KLA."

Now why in the world would they do that if it is a "membership driven" or "bottoms up" organization? :shock: MRJ?
 
Ben Roberts said:
Tommy, where did you get this information (story)?

Ben Roberts

The way it was explained to me was that the vote/votes in all the committees that make the final decisons on all proposed NCBA policy is all based on how many cattle each state/area has (adjudged by how much each state/area puts into the checkoff fund) which comes down to how many cattle they run thru the feedlots (which really upset the NCBA big boys when the checkoff rules got changed to allowed the retained owners to put that money back to the credit of their home states) another thing they haven't really wanted to make public- so many people don't even know about it...

No doubt about it- the feeder states and the Packer states control NCBA- and when you have the Packers now owning in some way a major part of the feeders-- they own and control NCBA....
 
I don`t know when the rules were changed, sending the money back to the state of ownership. But this "little" move was the start of bringing some fairness back into a system we allowed NCBA the amount of control they have had for over 20years. The current system is far from being balanced, but with the exposure of how it has and is dominated maybe some equality will come into the system.
 
I'm quite well aware of how the NCBA system works, I just wanted to know where Tommy got his information.

EJ, I agree with you, the system is unbalanced and always has been, but who/what is going to bring that equality(that we've never had) to the system?

Best Regards
Ben Roberts
 
Ben Roberts said:
I'm quite well aware of how the NCBA system works, I just wanted to know where Tommy got his information.

EJ, I agree with you, the system is unbalanced and always has been, but who/what is going to bring that equality(that we've never had) to the system?

Best Regards
Ben Roberts

That`s a fair question BR, and more a less a fairly difficult task. With less then 20% of producers belonging to any organization it would appear that to get 40% participation would be a major accompishment. Heck, most times you don`t even get that with a major election, when the results affect more then just one segment. But it would be my hope that at some point "common sense" will come into play and we start thinking for ouselves rather then letting the muti national`s dictate for us.
 
EJ said:
Ben Roberts said:
I'm quite well aware of how the NCBA system works, I just wanted to know where Tommy got his information.

EJ, I agree with you, the system is unbalanced and always has been, but who/what is going to bring that equality(that we've never had) to the system?

Best Regards
Ben Roberts

That`s a fair question BR, and more a less a fairly difficult task. With less then 20% of producers belonging to any organization it would appear that to get 40% participation would be a major accompishment. Heck, most times you don`t even get that with a major election, when the results affect more then just one segment. But it would be my hope that at some point "common sense" will come into play and we start thinking for ouselves rather then letting the muti national`s dictate for us.

EJ, you are correct in what you say, but there is one way, to get more than 20% of the producers to belong to an organization, and that is put more profit into their pockets. Put more profit into their pockets and they will line-up to join. Then it won't make any difference if you were an NCBA, R-Calf, USCA supporter or what side of the 49 parallel you live on.

Best Regards
Ben Roberts
 

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