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sedan grass

jigs

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just dumped 2.80 out of the rain guage this morning, and now my out look on this season has dramaticly improved! I am wanting to plant something in some bare ground like lots and where the cows grazed off some oats. several guys around here do the sedan grass, but with the fear of nitrate poisoning, I am hesitant. looking for any advice, and experiance.

thanks in advance
 
I'm going to get in trouble for saying this, but in places where there
are lots of cattle for a short time, you can't beat quack grass.
The cows like it, it stays green and you can't hardly kill it. Of course,
it is a prennial grass. Get it started and you're done forever.

Ok, folks, have at it!!! :wink:
 
Crabgrass is pretty good grazing grass for hot dry weather also. I think the seed are available. Red River variety comes to mind.

Sudan can have prussic acid after a dry spell, along with nitrate poisoning.
A frost will bring on prussic acid also.

Pearl millet does pretty well in sandy loamy soil. No prussic acid either.
 
alabama said:
Crabgrass just can't take the dry wether. But water and "N" on crabgrass and it can't be beat.

Not to argue, but I have more crabgrass this year than ever before.

Goosegrass too. (A pain in the rear)
 
I would go with the pearl millet if you have any soil moisture at all to get it started. I have a bunch of it laying around waiting to plant but I won't bother unless it rains in the next two weeks.... With a little less soil moisture Sudex seemed to germinate a bit better but it needed more moisture during the growing period and you have more risks of nitrate and prussic.

If we don't get some rain than we will hold on to the seed and plant some turnips or another brassicas mixed wit something and get some grazing in October/november, assuming we get the moisture in August.
 
Nitrate poisoning will not be a problem if you receive adequate moisture but if you don't it can be a concern. German hay millet might be a good option as you won't have nitrate problems with it.


I am glad to see that some of the areas South of us have started to get some moisture maybe ours is coming.
 
Faster Horses-I just call quackgrass -duck hay- and the plow jockeys are confused enough they don't complain. Since we changed some management practices we haven't reseed a pasture here in over ten years. Quackgrass is a great pasture grass if managed right-makes good horse hay also-it needs fertility to thrive but I have lots of cows supplying that.
 
Mike said:
alabama said:
Crabgrass just can't take the dry wether. But water and "N" on crabgrass and it can't be beat.

Not to argue, but I have more crabgrass this year than ever before.

Goosegrass too. (A pain in the rear)

I think it is just too dry at my place. no rain in 72 days. Crabgrass is curled up and brown. But then so is everthing else.

How is your pearl millet doing?
 
alabama said:
Mike said:
alabama said:
Crabgrass just can't take the dry wether. But water and "N" on crabgrass and it can't be beat.

Not to argue, but I have more crabgrass this year than ever before.

Goosegrass too. (A pain in the rear)

I think it is just too dry at my place. no rain in 72 days. Crabgrass is curled up and brown. But then so is everthing else.

How is your pearl millet doing?

It greens up every time I put water on it. But the cows keep knocking it back down. :cry: :cry:
 
Jigs-heard that there was even a road under water in Republic Co. Well around SAlina we only got .50 in the past 2 days,but it is really hot and humid and stormy looking out now-so hopefully some more rain will come. Don't care if it comes hard and fast as 2 pastures are getting iffy on damn water and relying on some springs now. So whatever or however would be great and would be very THANKFUL for :!:
 
yes, that road was a few miles east of me. two miles east they had just short of 6 inches over night. getting hammered right now with an isolated t-cell....probably another inch!

sure wish we could spread it out over a few weeks, but beggars can't be choosers!

do you know the Knopf farms down there??? we sell alot of hay through them.
 
yep-sure do -their hdquarters is 12 mi. north of us,but they farm around us-really nice boys-don't know the dad,but sure he is nice as well.Very hard workers also.
 
I know Justin pretty well, met the dad a few times, they are a very fine family..... well respected in many circles.
 

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