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Big Muddy rancher
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Quite the dog. 
As my daughter would say " It must be some other kind of collie" :lol:
As my daughter would say " It must be some other kind of collie" :lol:
Circle M
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lol ya she is quite the dog , funny looking but she does herd cattle pretty good i'm pretty sure the cows are just scared of her silly ears :lol:
Circle M
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Hey Ms greg the first pic of the brand new calf is her calf she finally had it this afternoon, so i am hoping that it was just really bad contractions that was causing her to fall down :???:
Circle M
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no not her first calf but most likely her last calf , she is pretty old
WyomingRancher
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Nice pictures! The calf in the feeder is a smart one :wink:
I see you are located in pine trees. Do you have to manage your pregnant cows against needle exposure during their last trimester? The reason I ask is because I do where I live.
Thanks for sharing!
I see you are located in pine trees. Do you have to manage your pregnant cows against needle exposure during their last trimester? The reason I ask is because I do where I live.
Thanks for sharing!
...toxcitity problems facing cattle that eat excessive amounts of evergreen needles....no sure which species of trees.........
"The needles of pine trees contain a variety of compounds such as resins, mycotoxins and lignols that can cause toxic reactions in livestock if ingested. However, white and red pines make excellent shelter belt trees on moist to dry soils. Their use should be limited to areas where livestock can not eat their needles."
"The needles of pine trees contain a variety of compounds such as resins, mycotoxins and lignols that can cause toxic reactions in livestock if ingested. However, white and red pines make excellent shelter belt trees on moist to dry soils. Their use should be limited to areas where livestock can not eat their needles."
Hanta Yo
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Mrs.Greg said:
Hi, Mrs Greg! Here we call it pine needle abortion. A few years ago we had a bunch of 3 yr olds calve within a couple days, about a week after a big snowstorm...a lot of retained placentas so we figured they were eating pine needles (we have ponderosa pines here). Happens last trimester of pregnancy, a least these 3 yr olds were close to their calving date anyway, so no babies lost. We were surprised how fast pine needles work :shock:
TXTibbs
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see now I can see these pics Jersey! Anyway she prolly won't see that.......
Nice pics...looks like someone is gonna be busy branding in a few...
Nice pics...looks like someone is gonna be busy branding in a few...
gcreekrch
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Pull up "pine needle abortion" on your computer. They are a problem here too, short of clearing everything we can't get away from them.
Lots of snow and poor feed quality last year on top of a lot of dead trees from the mountain pine beetle infestation,( lots of dead needles on top of the snow) the folks around here all had some losses due to abortion. Cold weather seems to have some bearing on it too. Same down there WyRa?
Lots of snow and poor feed quality last year on top of a lot of dead trees from the mountain pine beetle infestation,( lots of dead needles on top of the snow) the folks around here all had some losses due to abortion. Cold weather seems to have some bearing on it too. Same down there WyRa?
Thx all,interesting info. and something I've never heard of before.Like I said a few pine,very few,so I guess thats why its never been an issue for us.
Ranchers.net is great because we all learn how others raise thier cattle with different circumstances
Ranchers.net is great because we all learn how others raise thier cattle with different circumstances
WyomingRancher
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Here's a link to an article in BEEF. This will probably tell you all you ever wanted to know about pine needle abortion from a rancher's perspective
http://beefmagazine.com/mag/beef_needle_nightmare/
The year we had our wreck, my neighbor to the south's herd of 400 had an abortion/premature delivery rate of 30%, along with a good friend who lives in South Dakota with a herd of 700. The South Dakota rancher saved most of his premies since he lives at a much lower elevation, and underdeveloped lungs could still do the job.
Be glad you aren't familiar with pine needle problems!
http://beefmagazine.com/mag/beef_needle_nightmare/
The year we had our wreck, my neighbor to the south's herd of 400 had an abortion/premature delivery rate of 30%, along with a good friend who lives in South Dakota with a herd of 700. The South Dakota rancher saved most of his premies since he lives at a much lower elevation, and underdeveloped lungs could still do the job.
Be glad you aren't familiar with pine needle problems!
Jassy
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I'm thinking that first baby landed on them ruff pinecones...couldn't feel to good for his first feel of the real world..lol Yur dog looks pretty darn cute out there keeping an eye on everything...Thanks
CattleArmy
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I agree Jassy talk about a rough bed of pinecones.
Thank you for
sharing the pictures it is fun to see new cattle and dogs too!
Thank you for
sharing the pictures it is fun to see new cattle and dogs too!
Circle M
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Well you know how it goes i have laid out a huge area of nice soft barley straw for the moms to calf, but as for this little guys mom, she decided to walk to the very oppisite end of the field and have her calf there 
, but she got him to a softer place soon after, As for the pine needles i am very aware of the complications that they can have during pregnancy, i just make sure that they have alot of good feed at hand all the time and they stay away from the needles, but a few of my older moms seem to know something about them cause i will see them eating them off the trees only for an hour or so then next morning always a calf at foot ... conicidence ? maybe ?
, but she got him to a softer place soon after, As for the pine needles i am very aware of the complications that they can have during pregnancy, i just make sure that they have alot of good feed at hand all the time and they stay away from the needles, but a few of my older moms seem to know something about them cause i will see them eating them off the trees only for an hour or so then next morning always a calf at foot ... conicidence ? maybe ?
