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This years foal crop

lazy ace

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Here are some of this years foals, we are taking pictures for our catalog and I thought I would post some of them.


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BHR Dash of Frost

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BHR Cowboy Joe Frost

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BHR Flashy Firesteel

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BHR Frosted Fancy

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BHR Frosted Socks

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BHR Mover and Shaker

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BHR Super Special

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BHR Winning Shake

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BHR Cash is Nice a five year old gelding

have a cold one

lazy ace
 
Great looking animals you guys have there,all that grass seems to be aiding thier growth,lucky you.


Hope Lisa enjoyed her trip to Canada,next time make it Alberta.... :) I'd still like to buy you a cold one at The Grizzly Paw... :wink:
 
Nice crop of babies! :D
Only thing I would suggest is if you're using these pics for your catalogue, the tall grass is hiding their lower legs/feet. From a potential buyers perspective I would like to see the lower legs/feet as well in the pictures. Some bidders that get a catalogue but don't get to the sale but will phone in bids kinda rely on the pictures they see in that catalogue.
Otherwise they are great pics! :D
 
Thanks for the compliments it has been a really good moisture year for us and cattle and horses are taking advantage of it. The catalog should be online in the next week or so. We are going to try and put some videos online as well. http://pedersonbhr.com/

This year we have a good horsemen that is selling some broke two year olds that will be the same bloodlines as some of the colts. I don't have any pictures but they will be in the catalog.

Mrs. Greg that sounds like a plan in the future we would sure like to get back to that country.

Thanks again

have a cold one

Lazy ace
 
Wow very nice colts...I would have no problem taking home..BHR Flashy Firesteel , BHR Frosted Socks- I really like the looks of that lil bugger , BHR Winning Shake or BHR Cash is Nice but I'm a sucker of a nice a bay.
 
WOW. Those are some really stout babies, lazy ace. Congratulations to you and your family on raising some nice horses. Nice, nice mares made those babies!!

Who is the horseman that is bringing some young horses to your sale?
And...is the 5 year old you pictured going to be in the sale? I assume
he is a ranch horse of your breeding?

I've got the picture framed and in my house of the line up of sorrell horses that Lisa entered in the Photo Contest a couple of years back.
 
Faster Horses Gary Waddell from Vale is the man who is bringing the started colts to our sale. The five year old is going to a sale in Wyoming, Lorita Crawford has him in Belle and is putting some barrel training on him. He is out of one of our mared and Judge Cash.

have a cold one

lazy ace
 
the_jersey_lilly_2000 said:
Them's some nice nice lookin babies.

Nice lookin gelding too. But I gotta ask. What's the white dots on his front legs?

Thank you all for your nice compliments....

Lilly...

I'm not lazy ace, but I think I can answer the question of Cash's "polka dots." We ran Cash as a two and three year old. I think (this is from memory) as a two year old he got bucked shins, just as he was starting training. Bucked shins are an inflamatory condition of the cannon bones. Interestingly enough, usually the left (inside leg) develops bucked shins first, because of the pressure and reaching of the inside leg; this is especially true in horses that have to take a corner on the track, like TB's or middle distance QHs. One of the common treatments for bucked shins is "pin firing." Firing or blistering causes heating of the tissue and thus increases circulation in the area.

Really, bucked shins are kinda like shin splints in human athletes. When I was running track, I had shin splints pretty bad in my left shins...oddly enough, I also was pretty competitive in the 200, which is a two corner race.

Here is a good article on bucked shins.

http://www.equine.vetmed.lsu.edu/bucked%20shins.pdf

Cash is completely sound today, and has been since his treatment for the bucked shins.

Cheers---

TTB :wink:
 
Hmmm....that's interestin. Never heard of bucked shins before tho.

After readin the artical, it says it happens more frequently in 2 year olds. I know training plays a big part, but I'd think startin em that young also plays a part. Am I right?
 
I have bought a lot of off the track TB's and you see "pin firing" a fair amount...other than looking bad it has no draw backs that I know of.

As far as I know training and yes starting them so young can lead to it happening....I really wish there were more rules to protect the horses....I have a hard time thinking of a good reason any horse racehorse, cowpony, etc. should be worked hard before the age of 3...I don't see the harm in LIGHTLY starting a horse at 2 but get the basics on it then get off and let it grow up for another year....But I guess when money means more then the life of a horse or of that horses legs/joints..you can guess what one wins out.( JMHO) ..I'm off my soapbox.....lol
 
Chickshunt2 said:
I have bought a lot of off the track TB's and you see "pin firing" a fair amount...other than looking bad it has no draw backs that I know of.

As far as I know training and yes starting them so young can lead to it happening....I really wish there were more rules to protect the horses....I have a hard time thinking of a good reason any horse racehorse, cowpony, etc. should be worked hard before the age of 3...I don't see the harm in LIGHTLY starting a horse at 2 but get the basics on it then get off and let it grow up for another year....But I guess when money means more then the life of a horse or of that horses legs/joints..you can guess what one wins out.( JMHO) ..I'm off my soapbox.....lol

I watched some of the Congressional investigation into horse racing on C-SPAN awhile back-- on all the varying rules from state to state- and especially the heavy usage of drugs in these horses, which is causing/allowing many of them to breakdown- like has been happening more and more in some of the top TB races that has caused the uproar in the horsey set, animal rights folks- and to some extent everyone...

The sad thing is the industry can't seem to come together and regulate and police itself- so in the next year of two- I see some major legislation coming out to regulate ages, drugs, and everything else involved in racing...
 
TTB- I sure wasn't trying to bash you or racing- as I've owned some horses on/off the track too...Best stud I ever owned was one that got sored up on the track-and started running up into the air- but never bothered him a bit after he healed up- for working cows, roping, or breeding..

It does sound like some of the TB racing is a mess- and more so in certain areas of the country...But its became a catch 22-- if you don't use all the drugs that everyone else does- you can't win...

I liked one old breeder/trainer that said he grew up on the King Ranch around horses all his life- and they're born to run...They don't need to be filled full of drugs to do it...
I was kind of reminded of this while watching the Olympics- where the Chinese team is known to be lying and using underage gymnastic performers-which took gold... It seems like if there is a way to cheat to win, someone will always do it.. :(
 
OT: No offense taken on my part...After giving some thought, I deleted my post; because I think it would add fuel to the fire. In essence this is what I said:

I agree that we shouldn't be drugging horses, or really other animals for that matter.

I do not think that we can blame all lameness on running horses as two year olds. I think horses have been raced as two's for a long time...but incidence of lameness, etc. have increased. That tells me that while age may have some piece in the problem, it's not the whole problem. I think it's additive...probably three or four other reasons too...

--Surface issues (it is proven turf horses don't have nearly the lameness or shin problems "dirt" horses do)

--Repetition--hock problems in ranch, arena, jumping, barrel, rope, etc horses is increasing in incidence annually. Heck human ergonomic ailments (carpal tunnel) are increasing at a huge rate too!

--I think one reason we see so many track horses fired is because of the high level of diagnostics in a track situation. Could it be that lots of ranch, etc horses have cannon problems but we don't catch them? My guess is yes. Our horse Cash did not even show any signs of lameness but had a ton of heat in his cannon bones. To our knowledge, he is only the second horse we've ever had fired, and both were cold fired. That is the reason the "polka dots" show up on him so well---just like a freeze brand. Both horses went to have fairly sucessful racing careers, and the other horse is as sound as could be, and he's well into his 20's.

--Structure and shoeing-I think we have bred horses to be so "long and flat" strided that we have inadvertantly ended up putting more pressure on the long bones and joints. Add to this, racers tend to be shod to make them even longer, and I think probably add more stress. I have no proof of this, just my observation. I'd say the opposite is true of lots of arena type horses...and thus their hock issues.

I do think that we need to think about how we encourage regulation in the horse world, as I have the sneeking suspicion that it will come back to haunt us in the "food animal" world. HSUS and other activist groups know once they win a "horse" fight, it's easy to take down the other species.
 
I liked your post, TTB. Good points. And I agree...however, I still think the race folks (and cutters, and reiners, and--and--and) ask too much out of a 2 year old. You know, their knees aren't closed until they are 27 months old. Oh ya, they X-ray them to find
out, I guess, but still, they ask a lot of a 2 year old. And it is because of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$,
 

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